"No credit card needed" on a browser download was really weird to see
Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
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Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#22In case someone from Polypane drops by: Your pricing page breaks completely when accessing it from Argentina where prices are "larger" (ej. "ARS 1,037.20" for the Individual plan). Worse, I see no way to change the currency. You shouldn't assume that because I accessed from Argentina the price in Argentine Pesos is helpful for me (it isn't). You should provide a way to change the currency (normally people put it in t…
This.
I rarely speak the language of the country I may be in atm.
I rarely use the currency of the country I may be in atm.
Please, do not try to be smart about these things.
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#23The SaaS pricing of these tools is getting out of hand. €108/year for this. Another hundred for retool, another hundred for Postman, mmhmm / camera apps, Notion, Gmail, Trello/Jira, Github/Gitlab, Slack, an image resizing service, some load testing tool, Figma.. now every developer has a $1000+ monthly burn rate (!).
Can we go back to buying plain software licenses?
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#24I don't mind paying a subscription for a quality product but 60USD a month is very excessive.
Where are you seeing $60/mo? The pricing page shows $11/mo for an individual (or $9/mo for annual) or $47/mo for a team of up to 10 (or $39/mo for annual).
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#25In case someone from Polypane drops by: Your pricing page breaks completely when accessing it from Argentina where prices are "larger" (ej. "ARS 1,037.20" for the Individual plan). Worse, I see no way to change the currency. You shouldn't assume that because I accessed from Argentina the price in Argentine Pesos is helpful for me (it isn't). You should provide a way to change the currency (normally people put it in t…
This. I rarely speak the language of the country I may be in atm. I rarely use the currency of the country I may be in atm. Please, do not try to be smart about these things.
As long as there’s an easy way for the user to choose a different language and currency, it seems defaulting based on location would be correct for the highest percentage of users, unless you have some reason to believe it’s more likely that your audience is, say, English-speaking users who prefer to see prices in USD.
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#26In case someone from Polypane drops by: Your pricing page breaks completely when accessing it from Argentina where prices are "larger" (ej. "ARS 1,037.20" for the Individual plan). Worse, I see no way to change the currency. You shouldn't assume that because I accessed from Argentina the price in Argentine Pesos is helpful for me (it isn't). You should provide a way to change the currency (normally people put it in t…
I'm in Uruguay and it gave me Euros as currency? I'm not sure what 3rd party they're using for this but it looks like it could use some fine tuning
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#27The SaaS pricing of these tools is getting out of hand. €108/year for this. Another hundred for retool, another hundred for Postman, mmhmm / camera apps, Notion, Gmail, Trello/Jira, Github/Gitlab, Slack, an image resizing service, some load testing tool, Figma.. now every developer has a $1000+ monthly burn rate (!). Can we go back to buying plain software licenses?
Most of the tools you listed are hosted services, not products you buy once. Gmail, Trello, Slack, Figma, and Jira are all closed source components on a hosted platform. Their core features are that you can use them and collaborate on them without taking care of running the actual software itself.
You can switch to alternative you host yourself. RocketChat or Element instead of Slack, Gitlab instead of Github, you name it. There are tons of open source and closed source alternative to all the cool hosted platforms if you dare look outside what everyone else is using.
This strategy incurs the cost of maintenance and management, which is why in many cases the hosted services are usually cheaper. Getting Gitlab on a $10 VPS isn't a problem, but getting regular backups, failovers, etc. is incredible difficult.
My personal developer burn rate is less than $50 per month. The company I work for doesn't even need pay for Docker's fancy account with higher limits because there's no need to, even if you run containers all day. You don't have to use all these expensive online services if you're willing to run some software in-house, but don't underestimate the cost of paying someone to set up all those cost-saving services.
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#28In case someone from Polypane drops by: Your pricing page breaks completely when accessing it from Argentina where prices are "larger" (ej. "ARS 1,037.20" for the Individual plan). Worse, I see no way to change the currency. You shouldn't assume that because I accessed from Argentina the price in Argentine Pesos is helpful for me (it isn't). You should provide a way to change the currency (normally people put it in t…
Their pricing breaks the entire deal for me. :) Just use the free alternative Responsively.
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#29The SaaS pricing of these tools is getting out of hand. €108/year for this. Another hundred for retool, another hundred for Postman, mmhmm / camera apps, Notion, Gmail, Trello/Jira, Github/Gitlab, Slack, an image resizing service, some load testing tool, Figma.. now every developer has a $1000+ monthly burn rate (!). Can we go back to buying plain software licenses?
Most of the tools you listed are hosted services, not products you buy once. Gmail, Trello, Slack, Figma, and Jira are all closed source components on a hosted platform. Their core features are that you can use them and collaborate on them without taking care of running the actual software itself. You can switch to alternative you host yourself. RocketChat or Element instead of Slack, Gitlab instead of Github, you na…
I've mostly switched to the self-hosted side.
Yes - there is some initial ramp up time and some hurdles to face (and I actually ended up going the self-hosted K8s route, which is definitely a lot of additional ramp up time, but IMO - worth it.)
That said... I save a LOT of money.
Currently hosting
- Bookstack
- Seafile
- Jellyfin
- Grocy
- Drone.io
- Gitlab
- Youtrack
- Keycloak
- OpenHab
~$50/year for dynamic dns. ~$15/year for hostnames. ~$5/year for backup and long term storage (this varies, but is often within the free tier on backblaze unless I have to restore a service).
Or about $5/month (not including the internet, which I already pay for anyways, and the hardware, which is literally my old/outdated machines running micro-k8s, and a NAS).
The maintenance can be annoying every now and then - but it's also the kind of work I don't really mind, and it's a nice exercise to stay up-to-date on tech I end up interacting with in the office anyways.
Re: Polypane: A browser for responsive and accessible development
#30In case someone from Polypane drops by: Your pricing page breaks completely when accessing it from Argentina where prices are "larger" (ej. "ARS 1,037.20" for the Individual plan). Worse, I see no way to change the currency. You shouldn't assume that because I accessed from Argentina the price in Argentine Pesos is helpful for me (it isn't). You should provide a way to change the currency (normally people put it in t…
This. I rarely speak the language of the country I may be in atm. I rarely use the currency of the country I may be in atm. Please, do not try to be smart about these things.
> Please, do not try to be smart about these things.
There must be some sort of sales benefit to it, otherwise websites wouldn't be doing it. I'm guessing the main advantage is when it gets the currency right, it's easier to buy the product.