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Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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Throughout my 20s (in my 30s now) I worked as a film composer in Hollywood, land of personal assistants. One thing I took to heart was that the best personal assistants weren't looking to use the opportunity get elsewhere. What you want is someone who wants to stay in that role, because as a lot of other comments here point out, it takes a lot of time for the person to learn enough about you to become truly useful ra…

I would love to hear a story of your film composing career. Yes, HN is about hackers and tech and stuff like that, but I think that being generally curious about other things, such as film composing, is only adding to the experience here.

Anyway... Just wanted to let you know that you made me really curious :)

Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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Hire someone from roughly your own socioeconomic class and cultural background who won't be tempted to defraud you and just wants a low stress part time job while they work on some personal creative project that requires a high level of intelligence and expertise but pays little (e.g. literary translation, experimental opera, etc), respect their time boundaries, and you'll have a loyal and capable ally for as long as…

>Hire someone from roughly your own socioeconomic class and cultural background who won't be tempted to defraud you and just wants a low stress part time job while they work on some personal creative project The original argument was that you don't want someone who will be tempted to leave soon, because that then is a waste of the time spent training them. How about pay someone from a lower socioeconomic class enough…

It is a reality your employees will steal from you at some point, unless you pay them truly astronomical amounts (and even then...) When you have just one, perhaps you will get lucky. With multiple it is a matter of time.

Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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This 2 hour video from David Perell is a phenomenal explanation of all the things you ask about. It talks about hiring, onboarding, and working with a personal assistant. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ug9fey6GhE

Curious to why this is "unlisted", and in fact it has only a bit more than a thousand views.

Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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post #68

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This is really interesting. I wish if I can hire someone to clean my house and do grocery shopping for me. If you don't mind me asking, how many hours/per week she works for you?

Housecleaning is a very common stand alone service, and grocery shopping/delivery is fairly easy now too. Do you really want an individual, or just a service?

A service will always be a worse experience. A real human being can mod you and make time for you (this is what you pay them for). To a service, you are a number that the bare minimum is done for to ensure your money comes in.

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Absolutely. It was mostly a tangent I wanted to write out. On "other duties," I think a lot of people have that mindset in a partner: mechanically do these things that benefit my emotional state, while I mechanically do my things that benefit their emotional state, and repeat until death. With the common form of payment being money and material goods, for material services. Transactional. A disheartening state of aff…

I think that's called caring for someone.

If it is transactional, it's not caring for someone :)

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>Hire someone from roughly your own socioeconomic class and cultural background who won't be tempted to defraud you and just wants a low stress part time job while they work on some personal creative project The original argument was that you don't want someone who will be tempted to leave soon, because that then is a waste of the time spent training them. How about pay someone from a lower socioeconomic class enough…

It is a reality your employees will steal from you at some point, unless you pay them truly astronomical amounts (and even then...) When you have just one, perhaps you will get lucky. With multiple it is a matter of time.

I've spent more than half of my life working, I've never stolen from my employer and I don't recieve "truly astronomical amounts" in pay.

Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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If you think about it, this feels like the assistant version of a good developer. From a good senior developer I expect initiative. I expect them to have a high level view of the system while still working on the 'in the weeds' stuff. They proactively create a ticket for later to do that refactoring they think is really needed but we don't have time for right now and they ninja it in on Friday afternoon because they…

It seems like you want one person to be willing and eager to fill the role several employees, including half of your own. Or a genie.

That’s the bog standard description of senior software engineers at any top tier companies. You get paid a shitload of money because you’re not just parsing requirements in the bare minimum and building the wrong thing. That’s what outsourcing companies are for.

Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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This is definitely a weird thread in that regard. Maybe people aren't appreciating how many people will do all sorts of things for money? The more outrageous requirements require a more trusting relationship between employer and employee, certainly, and a skilled EA (or majordomo, it seems) is hugely valuable. My EA-style friend is in a major US city right now supervising the construction of a house - that absolutely…

I think the background outrage levels are abnormal, doesn’t take much for someone to be on tilt. Could also be some folks thinking if you earn enough to afford an assistant than you earn too much.

People that think like that are setting themselves up to be a lifelong loser.

Paying an EA is no different than paying McDonald’s to cook for you. Outsourcing things you can afford to is how we have a productive society.

If someone can make $800k a year pouring their life into their job and delivering tons of value for customers, that’s great. They should do that even if they spend $100k on an EA.

I’d take 50 highly productive people over 50 clock punchers any day. Demonizing them is just tall poppy syndrome.

Re: Ask HN: I’d like to hire a personal/executive assistant – any tips or advice?

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>No one's livelihood should depend on having to read the room like a geisha. Why not? Isn't that most jobs? Seems to me a lot of jobs require you to "read the room" in one way or another. If some work doesn't need that, then a machine should just do it since that's what human excel at.

People who expect EAs to read minds are watching too many movies with butlers or pepper pots like secretaries. Imagine asking your EA why they didn't do something you expected them to do without being explicit about what you want.

Imagine asking a software engineer why they shipped code so slow it made a system unusable when “don’t slow the software down 1000x” wasn’t explicitly in the requirements.

This is exactly the same thing. Assistants are there to help people and to know what to do with high level directives.

“I want to take a stay at home vacation next week” should not require explicit instructions to reschedule everything and notify people…

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