OK I mean what's stopping NSO from dissolving and coming back as...NS0. Freeze their assets and Israel just injects more money. Put travel restrictions on their employees and Israel will issue new passports/identities. I see no reason or Israel to stop unless the US government gets involved. Even then they'll continue what they're doing, except VPN into Russia.
Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
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Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#12What was even the endgame here? If you successfully claim you were acting as an agent of a foreign government (many of them, in fact!), surely that's the kinda line of thought that ends with your employees arrested at every airport and border? Why is this even in civil court. How can the CEO of this company be in the US at the same time as his company is put on the sanctions list and still board an airplane out of th…
it's fairly common, as far as I've seen - at least in Portland when Saudi citizens are released on bail they seem to disappear.
https://www.oregonlive.com/news/erry-2018/12/9b5b1eff724150/...
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#13What was even the endgame here? If you successfully claim you were acting as an agent of a foreign government (many of them, in fact!), surely that's the kinda line of thought that ends with your employees arrested at every airport and border? Why is this even in civil court. How can the CEO of this company be in the US at the same time as his company is put on the sanctions list and still board an airplane out of th…
There's nothing done against being the agent of a foreign allied government. If they were doing this for the Chinese or the Russians they'd be arrested.
The law against foreign government agents is applied incredibly arbitrarily.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#14OK I mean what's stopping NSO from dissolving and coming back as...NS0. Freeze their assets and Israel just injects more money. Put travel restrictions on their employees and Israel will issue new passports/identities. I see no reason or Israel to stop unless the US government gets involved. Even then they'll continue what they're doing, except VPN into Russia.
Can someone help me understand the downvotes? This is completely true.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#15OK I mean what's stopping NSO from dissolving and coming back as...NS0. Freeze their assets and Israel just injects more money. Put travel restrictions on their employees and Israel will issue new passports/identities. I see no reason or Israel to stop unless the US government gets involved. Even then they'll continue what they're doing, except VPN into Russia.
Could they go after the ownership group? Novalpina Capital is UK-based.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#16OK I mean what's stopping NSO from dissolving and coming back as...NS0. Freeze their assets and Israel just injects more money. Put travel restrictions on their employees and Israel will issue new passports/identities. I see no reason or Israel to stop unless the US government gets involved. Even then they'll continue what they're doing, except VPN into Russia.
Can someone help me understand the downvotes? This is completely true.
"Never do anything ever because they'll just find a way around it" - HN
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#17Tails should be able to sue Facebook then, right? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/06/facebook_help...
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#18Tails should be able to sue Facebook then, right? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/06/facebook_help...
No, because FB, presumably, developed the tails exploit locally and never needed to interact with an external server to do so. FB passed the exploit to law enforcement. In the NSO case, they used FB’s servers as part of their exploit development and exploit distribution.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#19Tails should be able to sue Facebook then, right? https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2020/06/facebook_help...
No, because FB, presumably, developed the tails exploit locally and never needed to interact with an external server to do so. FB passed the exploit to law enforcement. In the NSO case, they used FB’s servers as part of their exploit development and exploit distribution.
Oh, fair enough. Still though, they should be able to sue them if Apple can sue NSO: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29320986
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#20OK I mean what's stopping NSO from dissolving and coming back as...NS0. Freeze their assets and Israel just injects more money. Put travel restrictions on their employees and Israel will issue new passports/identities. I see no reason or Israel to stop unless the US government gets involved. Even then they'll continue what they're doing, except VPN into Russia.
Can someone help me understand the downvotes? This is completely true.
It is not. Israel does not fund NSO in any way. They have clients.