Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
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Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#2Here's the actual ruling from the court:
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21100675/ninth-circui...
Also relevant: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29320986 (Apple sues NSO Group to curb the abuse of state-sponsored spyware)
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#3Surprised NSO Group hasn't already rolled over like Cambridge Analytica
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#4Surprised NSO Group hasn't already rolled over like Cambridge Analytica
Maybe some protection based on venue? I don't know how much of NSO Group's assets/customers/etc are exposed to US courts. Maybe Isreal is more willing to protect NSO Group than the UK was willing to protect Cambridge Analytica.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#5What was even the endgame here? If you successfully claim you were acting as an agent of a foreign government (many of them, in fact!), surely that's the kinda line of thought that ends with your employees arrested at every airport and border?
Why is this even in civil court. How can the CEO of this company be in the US at the same time as his company is put on the sanctions list and still board an airplane out of the country after? Why are banks discussing with the sanctioned entity how to best unroll their debts?
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#6Am I the only one surprised these FB & Apple NSO lawsuits are just now happening?
Perhaps it just takes times to build a case for court?
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#7Am I the only one surprised these FB & Apple NSO lawsuits are just now happening? Perhaps it just takes times to build a case for court?
ProPublica should probably get credit. Even if the companies knew before their reporting, the publicity surely spurred them to act.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#8Am I the only one surprised these FB & Apple NSO lawsuits are just now happening? Perhaps it just takes times to build a case for court?
The Facebook lawsuit is older, hence why you are reading the judgement on an appeal of an appeal or something in that order. The timing on the Apple lawsuit is probably no accident; now that this "foreign state actor immunity" fig leaf is out of the way, the original lawsuit can proceed full speed ahead and is likely going to be fatal to NSO. I wouldn't be surprised if any victims of theirs similarly sue them.
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#9Surprised NSO Group hasn't already rolled over like Cambridge Analytica
Maybe some protection based on venue? I don't know how much of NSO Group's assets/customers/etc are exposed to US courts. Maybe Isreal is more willing to protect NSO Group than the UK was willing to protect Cambridge Analytica.
NSO group actually produced something that seems to work. In retrospect, Cambridge Analytica was overhyped and largely ineffective: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica#Assessment...
Re: Facebook can pursue malware lawsuit against Israel's NSO Group -US appeals court
#10What was even the endgame here? If you successfully claim you were acting as an agent of a foreign government (many of them, in fact!), surely that's the kinda line of thought that ends with your employees arrested at every airport and border? Why is this even in civil court. How can the CEO of this company be in the US at the same time as his company is put on the sanctions list and still board an airplane out of th…
It is in civil court because politicians are scared of doing anything other than giving Israel billions