End of Support for Firefox Lockwise • Hacker News Board

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by jckahn » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:51 PM UTC

What does this mean for iOS Lockwise users who use it as a system-level password manager? Will we be able to use Firefox for the same purpose?

I had to switch back to Safari from Firefox on iOS because the latter had so many issues and missing features by comparison. Lockwise was the only solution from a developer I trust for syncing passwords between Ubuntu and iOS, and iCloud passwords are unavailable on Linux.

I really hope iOS Firefox is updated to support system-level password management!

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by crossroadsguy » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:51 PM UTC

It's great that Mozilla is stopping something it's not at all good at and isn't its main strength.

What is worse that it keeps doing such things - starting and then killing services one after another; and never learns. So in the end it's nothing great.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by rwky » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:51 PM UTC

notRobot wrote: post #11

I am not happy about this. I like having the standalone Lockwise app on my Android phone as a password manager. When the app is discontinued, will I still be able to use autofill in other apps? And what about the apps where autofill doesn't work? Having to open my browser for every password I need to copy on my phone just seems clunky and stupid. I'm so fucking sick of Mozilla breaking their UX flows for every damn t…

>When the app is discontinued, will I still be able to use autofill in other apps?

Thankfully it appears it will work

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29322019

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by OJFord » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

ihaveajob wrote: post #13

Very annoying. I use Firefox, but I also loved Lockwise as a general password manager for other apps. What's the next best?

Firefox > Settings > Logins & passwords > Autofill in other apps.

Happy to discover this via another comment in this thread myself!

Why oh why this isn't clearer (or mentioned at all for Android) in the PR I have no idea. It makes a scary/annoying thing tame/nothing.

I suppose we missed the earlier 'deprecated, switch to this' memo?

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by vadfa » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:53 PM UTC

jckahn wrote: post #21

What does this mean for iOS Lockwise users who use it as a system-level password manager? Will we be able to use Firefox for the same purpose? I had to switch back to Safari from Firefox on iOS because the latter had so many issues and missing features by comparison. Lockwise was the only solution from a developer I trust for syncing passwords between Ubuntu and iOS, and iCloud passwords are unavailable on Linux. I r…

TFA answers your question.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by gjsman-1000 » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:54 PM UTC

Another Mozilla project bites the dust.

You have one job: Build Firefox. Drop the side projects.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by kbenson » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:56 PM UTC

notRobot wrote: post #11

I am not happy about this. I like having the standalone Lockwise app on my Android phone as a password manager. When the app is discontinued, will I still be able to use autofill in other apps? And what about the apps where autofill doesn't work? Having to open my browser for every password I need to copy on my phone just seems clunky and stupid. I'm so fucking sick of Mozilla breaking their UX flows for every damn t…

> Also, having to open my browser for every password I need to copy on my phone just seems clunky and stupid.

You don't (at least for Android), the functionality of Lockwise appears to have been replicated in Firefox. There's a toggle in the logins and passwords settings section of Firefox to allow it to fill in passwords for other apps.

Apparently they're rolling it out in iOS next month, according to the article (as jdlshore pointed out).

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by andoli » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:58 PM UTC

I know I'm being a bit naive, but I trusted them more than any other random "free as in beer" password manager service...I didn't mind too much the rather miserable mobile experience, as long as it got the job done.

That's bad Mozilla. Lockwise was the reason I started donating.

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by kuschku » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 7:59 PM UTC

jdlshore wrote: post #16

Before everybody gets up in arms from the headline, they're just moving/keeping this feature into the Firefox browser. The article says: > Firefox for iOS will already sync your saved Lockwise passwords. You can currently only use those inside Firefox. Check back for updates in December 2021 on how to use Firefox for iOS as your system-wide password manager. [It's already there on Firefox for Android.]

The title should honestly be changed into something like "Firefox Lockwise integrated into Firefox, standalone version to be deprecated"

Re: End of Support for Firefox Lockwise

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Post by gjsman-1000 » Tue, Nov 23, 2021, 8:02 PM UTC

When do we fork Firefox because Mozilla is a failure at their job?

They've managed to lose almost all their market popularity, mobile Firefox share is almost nonexistent, they pay their executives extremely disproportionately compared to most nonprofits, they have expanded into countless failed side projects (Firefox OS, Firefox Send) and vestigial side projects they aren't good at (Pocket, Firefox Focus, Firefox Reality, Firefox Lockwise, Firefox Monitor, Mozilla VPN) which only serve to distract Mozilla from working on Firefox.

And since then they've now decided they are an NGO fighting for the Freedom of the Internet or something, even though all Google has to do is pull royalty funding because Firefox's market share is not worth supporting for how small it is, and their entire operation will fall overnight like a house of cards.