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Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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Along these line why is the US still minting pennies? At some point we could just start rounding to the nearest nickel (or dime). Also, why is gas always ab extra 9/10 of a penny? Reminds me of paying 3123 RON for a Big Mac in Romania -- that last digit is just noise at the consumer level.

Buddy, there's no way you paid 3123 RON for a Big Mac, since that's approximately 750 dollars. You probably paid 3123 ROL (the old currency before it was redenominated circa 2005).

(You are correct that amounts below 100 ROL were totally meaningless.)

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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Along these line why is the US still minting pennies? At some point we could just start rounding to the nearest nickel (or dime). Also, why is gas always ab extra 9/10 of a penny? Reminds me of paying 3123 RON for a Big Mac in Romania -- that last digit is just noise at the consumer level.

> why is the US still minting pennies?

A lobbying group funded by the producer of the blanks used to make pennies opposes penny abolition [1]. There is no similarly-motivated group promoting it. (Citizens to Retire the Penny exists, but their last news item is from 2019 [2].)

When the U.S. eliminated the half cent it was worth 14 cents [3], so there is a good case of nixing the nickel alongside the penny, whenever we get around to it.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americans_for_Common_Cents

[2] http://www.retirethepenny.org

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penny_debate_in_the_United_Sta...

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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Along these line why is the US still minting pennies? At some point we could just start rounding to the nearest nickel (or dime). Also, why is gas always ab extra 9/10 of a penny? Reminds me of paying 3123 RON for a Big Mac in Romania -- that last digit is just noise at the consumer level.

> why is gas always ab extra 9/10 of a penny Same reason things are $.99, $19.95, $299.99 instead of $1.00, $20.00, $300.00. In the US, there's many places that have 2 or 3 gas stations in near vicinity and price competition is fierce. So the $0.01 matters, people will drive to the gas station down the block to save that penny per gallon.

Gas prices are quoted to fractions of a penny and then rounded to the nearest cent when a card is swiped. For people paying with cash, rounding to the nearest ten cents isn't that much of a leap.

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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i see dollar tree going broke...they used to sell groceries and sundry goods cheaper than the big stores...now they are more expensive with a lot of item as compared to the bigger stores...convenience stores with gas pumps can get away with that--everyone needs gas...but now that dollar store is no longer cheaper than the big stores, and have no gas pumps, what is the attraction?

Are you thinking Dollar General? No Dollar Tree I've been in had groceries--maybe candy, but usually it's things like cheap plastic toys, paper plates/plasticware and cheap decorations for birthdays and the current holiday.

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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They have been selling for a dollar for 35 years. I'm really curious how their inventory has changed over this period. One 2020 dollar is 40 cents in 1985 dollars, but the cost of consumer goods has decreased significantly since 1985. So I wouldn't be surprised that their package sizes have not changed much. Related trivia: Between 1886-1959, the price of a bottle of Coke was a nickel [1]. [1] https://www.npr.org/sec…

Globalisation happened, massive economies of scale in manufacturing.

And now globalization has equalized global workforces with purchase and compensation parity. Costs must rise.

Money is to be made on trade and labor cost deltas, but those eventually, almost thermodynamically, equalize.

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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Dollar Tree can't be beat for things like cleaning supplies, commodity-type CPG items like soap and seasonal decorations-- but those items likely aren't where they make their money (they average a 30% GM, imported trinkets will have higher margin but lower volume than consumer staples). I've spoken to managers at multiple locations and the consensus top category by volume is candy, followed by paper goods. After that, the responses tend to vary.

Things like food are already a bad deal when compared to standard retailers-- they are typically smaller quantities at a much higher price per unit, and the products they carry are more processed so as to reduce costs and increase shelf-life. Then when a 1:1 comparison is made, they are often 30-50% more expensive (e.g. can of chunk light tuna for $1 vs $0.65 or less at Aldi). Going the route of 99 Center or the fast growing Five Below chain where they sell items for under $3 or $5, but with better quality items would have been an interesting approach, but that probably encroaches too much on their "up-market" Family Dollar locations? All being told, I wonder the price elasticity of candy and hyperprocessed foods are.

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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They have been selling for a dollar for 35 years. I'm really curious how their inventory has changed over this period. One 2020 dollar is 40 cents in 1985 dollars, but the cost of consumer goods has decreased significantly since 1985. So I wouldn't be surprised that their package sizes have not changed much. Related trivia: Between 1886-1959, the price of a bottle of Coke was a nickel [1]. [1] https://www.npr.org/sec…

Likely through shrinkflation: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrinkflation Next time you’re at the supermarket check if the bacon brands you remember are still a pound. I bet many of them are now 12 ounces.

by charging huge markup on per unit cost by reducing quantity. 3 pills of Tylenol for example for $1 instead of a bottle which may have dozens for $6 . The brands create special mini-sized packages specifically for dollar stores. Big business.

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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i see dollar tree going broke...they used to sell groceries and sundry goods cheaper than the big stores...now they are more expensive with a lot of item as compared to the bigger stores...convenience stores with gas pumps can get away with that--everyone needs gas...but now that dollar store is no longer cheaper than the big stores, and have no gas pumps, what is the attraction?

If you are close to a bigger store, then you have a choice. In lots of the US, the closest grocery and department store could be quite a ways away. They are growing like crazy in these areas. I agree that they are becoming a mix of a grocery store, convenience store and Wal-Mart but I think that is what the rural markets want. If they need something special, that can be saved for a special trip to "town".

Hard to understate this. There are rural areas where there's a Dollar Tree in every little town, but you have to drive 1-2 hours to the nearest WalMart—and further to the nearest Anything Else Worth Shopping At.

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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This was inevitable, but rather than maintain the status quo or even introducing shrinkflation, they should have made the jump to 2 dollars. 1.25 is maintenance, and effectively we are still getting what a dollar used to get. 2 dollars would get us a bit more time (inflation is not going to stop) and the ability to introduce a (relative) more premium product assortment. I only mention this premium product range becau…

Exactly right. Just like the US should get rid of all coins < $0.25.

But then how would the coin suppliers stay in business?

Re: Dollar Tree says US$1.25 price point to become new standard

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Along these line why is the US still minting pennies? At some point we could just start rounding to the nearest nickel (or dime). Also, why is gas always ab extra 9/10 of a penny? Reminds me of paying 3123 RON for a Big Mac in Romania -- that last digit is just noise at the consumer level.

The optics of eliminating the penny during inflation are really bad. The optics would be honest but politically bad. Maybe the next time we have a booming economy and high consumer confidence, we can make pennies seem tacky and get rid of them that way.
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