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Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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I'd love to hear exactly why you think it's "awesome" and "a good thing" to force users to scroll an entire window height in order to read part of one sentence. The reality is that they could have produced this same concept in a way that doesn't force such extreme interaction to consume very minimal content, resulting in the same "awesomeness" without wasting the user's time or energy.

The concepts presented , If the reader is not already well versed in the domain, seem hard to digest in under 30s if in video form . I’m from a backend world and frontend sometimes seems wild how fast it moves/changes… have you ever read a book and savored a single sentence ? Reflecting on what it says and the implications ? I find this site to be amazing at doing this or at least offering a great opportunity to do s…

As I mentioned already, videos have pause buttons. If you were struggling to grok a particular portion of a video, you have every opportunity to pause and analyze, but you'd also be able to continue watching a portion without any interaction if you already understood it.

And as the GP pointed out, the layout and content is essentially already in video form. They just chopped that video up into a website that forces the user to consume that tiny amount of content in an extremely specific way, which also requires a bunch of extra effort and massively wastes time -- for example, 3 full scrolls just to get past an animation full of loading icons and a single completely irrelevant sentence.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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Off topic: this is the best landing page I've ever seen on a mobile device. Keep scrolling down for some surprises!

It would be great if it let me scroll it! Elements suddenly becoming sticky and covering 60% of my screen and the scroll just...not working for 7 or so swipes there in the middle is a horrible UX. I'd be more forgiving on a 27" desktop monitor, but on a 6" mobile screen, this is borderline unusable.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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Watch the demo, they're not full circle yet. They're intermingling business and presentation logic all over the place. Their data models depend on createPost(), getPost(), and getPosts() style boilerplate methods. It'll be a couple years yet before the JS community reinvents MVC and ORMs (under a really slick name of course), then we'll be full circle.

Intermingling business and presentation logic is fine - even preferred - when they are tightly coupled. Lots of “business logic” is actually just presentation logic anyway. I don’t think the JS community is going to make the same mistakes Rails did. I for one am glad the days of highly mutative, untyped MVC are coming to an end.

Presentation logic isn't business logic, and mixing both will create severe headaches later on.

The point is more, most apps just don't have any business logic at all! It's very often just some CRUD on some data entities, and the rendering of those entities. CRUD isn't business logic.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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> Well, on a first page without any scroll you have action buttons which leads you to the pages where you can read at your own pace. For people who don't want that they've put small bits of information on each scroll. You're reversing the series of events. A user visiting a page (especially a homepage) expects it to offer relevant information in an easily consumable way. It is impossible for a user to automagically i…

Why are you so obsessed with this "tech bro" construct? If you are the kind of person that interprets everything as cliché, then you are liable to become one.

Amidst many paragraphs across several comments, I twice (and passingly) described the author's jokes as being reminiscent of the "tech bro" character that everyone on this site is familiar with, because that is exactly how they sound. Can't imagine how you interpreted that as an obsession, or why you thought it was ammunition to "take me down a peg." Your trolling needs some work.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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That's just your opinion. I think it's awesome and if it really "breaks every UI/UX rule in the book" it's a great example of how breaking the rules can be a good thing.

I'd love to hear exactly why you think it's "awesome" and "a good thing" to force users to scroll an entire window height in order to read part of one sentence. The reality is that they could have produced this same concept in a way that doesn't force such extreme interaction to consume very minimal content, resulting in the same "awesomeness" without wasting the user's time or energy.

Sounds like you just can't accept the fact that people like it.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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Forms are one of those things that are so much easier to manage in Vue (and no extra dependencies) https://v3.vuejs.org/guide/forms.html

Two-way bindings could seem like a great idea at first, but then you start building on top of it.

let me clarify it with the specific complication I've always encountered. You always need a function to parse raw input, a dictionary of strings, to the typed model object, or fail, then there should be a function to serialize the model back to the input attributes. You owing these 2 functions make 2 ways binding useless.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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Think of it as a video but you scroll through it. It’s really not that novel a concept.

I never said it was a novel concept or that the functionality is confusing. I just said that it's terrible, which it absolutely is, and your video comparison actually reinforces my point. They could have made this presentation into a 30 second video, which would have extremely simplified the access to information, while also only requiring one click, and still providing the ability to pause the flow of information wh…

I prefer this presentation over a PDF or a video. It works and I like it. You don't, then move on.

Counting "scrolls" (whatever that means) can't be a healthy way to engage with something you don't enjoy.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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I'm really glad I'm not working with UI/UX and project managers that you think would do that. Everything you stated is just your opinion (phrases like "anti-pattern" or "bad UX", "style over substance"), and that's fine. I don't find this homepage annoying. It's the opposite. I find it very informative. I'll for sure get involved with remix thanks to the great presentation and first impression they had on me. I'm doi…

> I'm really glad I'm not working with UI/UX and project managers that you think would do that. And I'm glad that I don't work with your project managers, who apparently think that choosing frameworks based on a homepage's arbitrarily "cool" presentation is appropriate methodology. > Everything you stated is just your opinion (phrases like "anti-pattern" or "bad UX", "style over substance"), and that's fine. Yes, whe…

You have chosen a strange hill to die on. Just accept the fact that we like this (I love it!) and move on. You won't convince anyone with your lousy attitude and obnoxious arguments.

Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX

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post #204

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I'd love to hear exactly why you think it's "awesome" and "a good thing" to force users to scroll an entire window height in order to read part of one sentence. The reality is that they could have produced this same concept in a way that doesn't force such extreme interaction to consume very minimal content, resulting in the same "awesomeness" without wasting the user's time or energy.

Sounds like you just can't accept the fact that people like it.

Sounds like you can't respond to a simple question and prefer Ad hominem. "It's awesome" has never been a proper justification.
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