Off topic: this is the best landing page I've ever seen on a mobile device. Keep scrolling down for some surprises!
It's created using React.js. ;)
Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
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Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
I disagree wholeheartedly. This site breaks every UI/UX rule in the book, and in the worst ways. Instead of just letting people read the information at their own pace, they've decided to limit the information to one partial sentence at a time, and more than half of those sentences are just irrelevant jokes. Possibly even worse is the lack of snapping to the sentence, which means the user has to guess how far they nee…
Think of it as a video but you scroll through it. It’s really not that novel a concept.
like a video of text, one sentence at a time, that you have to advance manually.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, on a first page without any scroll you have action buttons which leads you to the pages where you can read at your own pace. For people who don't want that they've put small bits of information on each scroll. Every information is carefully chosen, so you keep scrolling and reading. After that you go to the doc to read more. I've never seen better UI/UX that hook me in so quickly. If it was just regular page I…
> Well, on a first page without any scroll you have action buttons which leads you to the pages where you can read at your own pace. For people who don't want that they've put small bits of information on each scroll. You're reversing the series of events. A user visiting a page (especially a homepage) expects it to offer relevant information in an easily consumable way. It is impossible for a user to automagically i…
I'm really glad I'm not working with UI/UX and project managers that you think would do that. Everything you stated is just your opinion (phrases like "anti-pattern" or "bad UX", "style over substance"), and that's fine. I don't find this homepage annoying. It's the opposite. I find it very informative. I'll for sure get involved with remix thanks to the great presentation and first impression they had on me.
I'm doing web development and UI/UX for some time, same as people who build this (I didn't even know who built this until now). And it checks every mark in my UI/UX book. Shared with my peers (devs, PO and designers), all think the same. Great UX.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
I never said it was a novel concept or that the functionality is confusing. I just said that it's terrible, which it absolutely is, and your video comparison actually reinforces my point. They could have made this presentation into a 30 second video, which would have extremely simplified the access to information, while also only requiring one click, and still providing the ability to pause the flow of information wh…
That's just your opinion. I think it's awesome and if it really "breaks every UI/UX rule in the book" it's a great example of how breaking the rules can be a good thing.
I'd love to hear exactly why you think it's "awesome" and "a good thing" to force users to scroll an entire window height in order to read part of one sentence.
The reality is that they could have produced this same concept in a way that doesn't force such extreme interaction to consume very minimal content, resulting in the same "awesomeness" without wasting the user's time or energy.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Next does technically support POST endpoints, in that API endpoints support any HTTP method and receive which one it is as part of the incoming request. Definitely less nice than the way Remix handles it though.
It does, but the convention with forms is that you POST to the path you're on, rather than a different one. This is so that if there are any form validation errors you can easily re-render the current page with the errors added. To get this behaviour in Next, you'd have to hijack getServerSideProps (which is what the lib in one of your sibling comments does).
Ah that's useful context, thankyou! I didn't realise there was anything special going on with the path, I thought they were just doing a redirect back to that path from the server route if there were errors. What they're doing is much more clever and sophisticated than I realised, I definitely need to dive into it a bit more.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#206the example boosts with a technology that requires making 4 requests to show the UI?
if you think that's a lot, you haven't checked your network tab for any considerable production site lately.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#207They lost me at: return ( {projects.map((project) => ( {project.title} ))} . . . I don't know why we need another framework that smashes together code and HTML/directive-based templates like this and, generally, keeps us bound so tightly to web idioms. Would be nice to have a framework that obscures these kinds of "web fundamentals", so we no longer have to wrangle such low-level primitives to build complex apps. EDI…
I guess nostalgia is a powerful force in JS world.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#208Haven't looked at the specifics of the actual framework (yet), I came here to say that this landing page is simply amazing. It's fun, it tells a story, it gets you engaged, and it's fast and snappy and well-designed -- a pleasure to use! Kudos to whoever did the thinking & the work!
EDIT: Finished scrolling to the end, and... now I feel kind of silly for having praised the landing page, because my mind is like... "c'mon, it's super simple, it's still just text (albeit well-written), with some nicely done scrolling transitions etc" -- BUT... it's still really good! Yes, the elements and effects and everything on the page is stuff we've all seen already, it's not really something new, but I feel like it's just put together super well, and it is so frickin' smooth, I didn't notice a single hitch anywhere...
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#209truly something to get excited about in the frontend world. will use this to replace traditional server rendered pages from rails, django etc.
props to the authors of this fine library.
Re: Remix – A framework focused on web fundamentals and modern UX
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd never heard of Remix before today. To contrast, I heard about Next 3-4 years ago, despite not using it at work until a few months ago
Well Remix just released today, so it's not surprising you haven't heard about it. You'd have to follow Ryan, Michael and Kent, the people behind remix. Guillermo Rauch (main dude behind Next and Vercel) was well known in the scene before next which also helped it gain the initial traction to build upon. Feels like a similar case. IIRC remix wasn't suppose to be open source, but feels like nowadays it's a better choi…
> and Kent, the people behind remix
Is Kent also a person behind remix now? It used to be just Michael and Ryan, best known in the react space for react-router, and in the frontend ecosystem more generally for unpkg (Michael).
UPDATED: oh, I just found his tweet about him joining the Remix team.