Rust Moderation Team Resigns

Post by Angius » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 6:45 PM UTC

mdoms wrote: post #583

rust-throwaway1 wrote: post #548

I'm inclined to believe the rust moderation team even though they haven't disclosed any specifics. The way the core team exercises absolute authority in spite of community complaints has always rubbed me the wrong way. They present a facade of caring while crushing dissent. I do not recognize most of the core team these days, but Steve Klabnik and Ashley Williams stand out as likely culprits. I have personally submit…

None of the links you have provided shed any light because it's all deleted comments. Would you mind elaborating on Ashley Williams and her supposed "racism, sexism and antagonism"?

Post by phoe-krk » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 6:46 PM UTC

whatshisface wrote: post #520

phoe-krk wrote: post #501

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> Then don’t make a whole big public announcement about it. I don't understand. How do you resign from a public project without resigning from that public project? If it is not about the resignation but about the message, do you think that a "we are resigning as a whole team that was made pbulic and we do not provide any public reason for that" would work any better?

They could have resigned without making a post about it. Is that a good idea? Maybe, it depends on the details we don't know.

Post by fastasucan » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 6:47 PM UTC

Ticklee wrote: post #273

medeshago wrote: post #169

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Of course it is. What if a contributor is harassing another team member? What if he/she is being openly racist/sexist/etc.?

In my eyes someone is allowed to be as hateful as they want as long as they contribute good code.

Post by whimsicalism » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 6:47 PM UTC

phendrenad2 wrote: post #406

whimsicalism wrote: post #183

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Is there any possibility they are under formal legal contract ie. NDA? Don't know how formal the Rust organization is setup/whether that would be a part in the process of joining the moderation team.

An NDA for an open-source project? I sincerely hope no one tried that, but if they did, that's a radical idea and the effects must be studied (never let someone doing something weird go to waste, science can learn from it!)

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 6:48 PM UTC

busterarm wrote: post #290

zozbot234 wrote: post #220

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It's not like she would be the first or the only team member with rather controversial political views. As long as these views don't meaningfully impact her work on Rust, why shouldn't she be on the team? Why can't we just learn to be more tolerant of dissenting views?

Also...from the first line of Rust's CoC: We are committed to providing a friendly, safe and welcoming environment for all, regardless of level of experience, gender identity and expression, sexual orientation, disability, personal appearance, body size, race, ethnicity, age, religion, nationality, or other similar characteristic. And the first line from the Moderation section of that same document: Remarks that viol…