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Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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It's going to be a problem hard to resolved. It can be seen as a perk for a company to offer the possibility of remote work like bonuses or free coffee. The thing is, some people actually hate telework and would rather impose everyone to be present because this is how they feel the most efficient or because it is just how they like to work.

So contrary to the traditional employer/employees balance of power, there is also a employees/employees thing going on here.

Considering those who can telework full time without any limitations (say software engineer for example) what is the ratio of those who want to telework fulltime, part-time or not at all. It's hard to trust polls on this because they are usually driven by employers who have an agenda anyway.

Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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It's going to be a problem hard to resolved. It can be seen as a perk for a company to offer the possibility of remote work like bonuses or free coffee. The thing is, some people actually hate telework and would rather impose everyone to be present because this is how they feel the most efficient or because it is just how they like to work. So contrary to the traditional employer/employees balance of power, there is…

We currently have something very similar to Apple's proposed policy (~2 days in the office per week, several weeks remote work per year).

Some like it and will work from home as much as they can, others will come to the office but don't mind the flexibility.

What was interesting was comments from an anonymous poll. A couple of people said they didn't like the policy since it meant they ended up caring for young children almost all the time. Previously, they would split things like taking them to/from school or looking after them if they were sick 50:50 with their partner. One person having so much flexibility meant this became 100:0.

In theory we were flexible before 2020, but its only since 2020 that I've felt doing my laundry was an acceptable reason to work from home.

Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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I feel like the horse has left the barn. So many people at my firm have permanently moved to Montana, Houston, Arizona. No decrease in productivity. It's going to be really hard for management to entice them back to the office, if ever.

Also noticing all the recruiters who contact me these days lead with remote or % wfh.

Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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post #2

It's going to be a problem hard to resolved. It can be seen as a perk for a company to offer the possibility of remote work like bonuses or free coffee. The thing is, some people actually hate telework and would rather impose everyone to be present because this is how they feel the most efficient or because it is just how they like to work. So contrary to the traditional employer/employees balance of power, there is…

The greatest advantages of remote work are that it removes many of the downsides of a bad work environment:

    * No commute (not the employers fault really)
    * You can zone out in irrelevant meetings.
    * Sit down during stand-ups.
    * Soft 'intimidation' does not work well over the phone
    * No open office noise
etc.

Since I changed job from a chaotic place with 50min commute each way, to a tidy job within walking distance, the remote work thing seems like a minor perk, rather than the best thing ever.

Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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post #2

It's going to be a problem hard to resolved. It can be seen as a perk for a company to offer the possibility of remote work like bonuses or free coffee. The thing is, some people actually hate telework and would rather impose everyone to be present because this is how they feel the most efficient or because it is just how they like to work. So contrary to the traditional employer/employees balance of power, there is…

We currently have something very similar to Apple's proposed policy (~2 days in the office per week, several weeks remote work per year). Some like it and will work from home as much as they can, others will come to the office but don't mind the flexibility. What was interesting was comments from an anonymous poll. A couple of people said they didn't like the policy since it meant they ended up caring for young child…

Not sure I get it - why would working from home mean that you need to look after the children more? You can still use whatever other childcare arrangements you were using before, exactly as if you were in an office.

Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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It's funny how these big companies try so hard to make their office space as "cool" as possible and think employees enjoy them but the moment they are given the choice to work remotely almost nobody wants to go back to office, at least not on a daily basis..

Re: Apple has a new work-from-home policy, but it’s still not what employees want

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Apple is a company that values loyalty in its employees. This is just a good way for them to weed out some of the disloyal.

At the end of the day, there are so many people who want to work for Apple that I don't think it will be a big problem for them.

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