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U.S. Workers Are Realizing Life's More Than Just a Job

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Re: U.S. Workers Are Realizing Life's More Than Just a Job

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The pew article linked is much better and has a lot more detail: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/11/18/where-ameri...

Its title is a much broader “Where Americans find meaning in life has changed over the past four years” because theres a lot of interesting change in there. Personally, I think the massive change in people seeing their romantic partner as a source of meaning is one of the more intriguing changes in it.

Re: U.S. Workers Are Realizing Life's More Than Just a Job

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I definitely like the thought of working to live vs. living to work. The French have a pretty good idea of what that's like as far as I'm aware. Perhaps some more automation can kick in which would at least hopefully lead to UBI for workers.

So we already have plenty of automation... think spreadsheets, data pipelines, etc. I'm not convinced even more automation will mean a better situation for workers. I think it'll just result in even more profits for businesses.

Man I'm cynical today...

Re: U.S. Workers Are Realizing Life's More Than Just a Job

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I definitely like the thought of working to live vs. living to work. The French have a pretty good idea of what that's like as far as I'm aware. Perhaps some more automation can kick in which would at least hopefully lead to UBI for workers.

So we already have plenty of automation... think spreadsheets, data pipelines, etc. I'm not convinced even more automation will mean a better situation for workers. I think it'll just result in even more profits for businesses. Man I'm cynical today...

It's the efficiency trap. We're orders of magnitude more productive in an information throughput sense than we were 50 years ago, and we're working harder (within white collar business domain).

Re: U.S. Workers Are Realizing Life's More Than Just a Job

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I definitely like the thought of working to live vs. living to work. The French have a pretty good idea of what that's like as far as I'm aware. Perhaps some more automation can kick in which would at least hopefully lead to UBI for workers.

So we already have plenty of automation... think spreadsheets, data pipelines, etc. I'm not convinced even more automation will mean a better situation for workers. I think it'll just result in even more profits for businesses. Man I'm cynical today...

You aren't being cynical, it's basically been the story of the last half century in the US. Despite massive increases in automation of all kinds, most wages haven't kept up with inflation, and wealth inequality is worse than during the gilded age. In the tech sector we are moving toward digital feudalism in which we own nothing and survive only on the good graces of our lords. In the physical world less land than ever is owned by actual human beings, and more is being bought up every day.

Re: U.S. Workers Are Realizing Life's More Than Just a Job

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I have a question. How do those people live? Speaking of Canada, basic necessities like shelter, food and clothing are very expensive. For example, one can rent a 600ft2 apartment in close suburbs of Quebec city for 700CAD/month, 8400CAD/year. You can't go much lower except by having roommates.
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