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Re: Fingerprints can be hacked

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My favorite photograph of a fingerprint is when the Chaos Computer Club reproduced the German Foreign ministers fingerprint from a photo. So much for military grade security.

https://www.dw.com/en/german-defense-minister-von-der-leyens...

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The core problems with biometrics are that:

1) Not revokable (unlike compromised credentials)

2) Not a secret

3) Usually trivial to reproduce and spoof (even "liveliness" tests)

Re: Fingerprints can be hacked

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post #2

My favorite photograph of a fingerprint is when the Chaos Computer Club reproduced the German Foreign ministers fingerprint from a photo. So much for military grade security. https://www.dw.com/en/german-defense-minister-von-der-leyens... - The core problems with biometrics are that: 1) Not revokable (unlike compromised credentials) 2) Not a secret 3) Usually trivial to reproduce and spoof (even "liveliness" tests)

That's why this is a dumb idea, merchants can just use the replay attack: https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-china-paying-with-your-face-....

The only place where you should be using your biometrics is to unlock devices you carry with you, like the iPhone.

Re: Fingerprints can be hacked

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post #3

Fingerprints are usernames, not passwords. Here is an excellent (and timeless) post on this fact: https://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2013/10/fingerprints-are-use...

I always thought that since the beginning, but unfortunately the world went into another direction. People always said "something you have and something you know", but now for most cases it's just "something you have - your body". Obviously if in the future remote mind-readers are invented, the "something you know" part will also get obsolete, but for now we should stick to it.

Re: Fingerprints can be hacked

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post #5
post #2

My favorite photograph of a fingerprint is when the Chaos Computer Club reproduced the German Foreign ministers fingerprint from a photo. So much for military grade security. https://www.dw.com/en/german-defense-minister-von-der-leyens... - The core problems with biometrics are that: 1) Not revokable (unlike compromised credentials) 2) Not a secret 3) Usually trivial to reproduce and spoof (even "liveliness" tests)

That's why this is a dumb idea, merchants can just use the replay attack: https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-china-paying-with-your-face-... . The only place where you should be using your biometrics is to unlock devices you carry with you, like the iPhone.

Even for that it's not safe if anyone can bypass it with a $5 trick. It's definitely a thumb idea

Re: Fingerprints can be hacked

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post #2

My favorite photograph of a fingerprint is when the Chaos Computer Club reproduced the German Foreign ministers fingerprint from a photo. So much for military grade security. https://www.dw.com/en/german-defense-minister-von-der-leyens... - The core problems with biometrics are that: 1) Not revokable (unlike compromised credentials) 2) Not a secret 3) Usually trivial to reproduce and spoof (even "liveliness" tests)

I’m waiting on a court case with a fingerprint as key evidence for conviction, in which the defendant brings this up. Might not pass reasonable doubt muster, but what if somebody sold fingerprint forgery kits online that made it push-button simple? Just supply an image or two, run it through some ML to reconstruct the print, laser etch a latex glove or similar…

I wonder if you could use CRISPR or “lab-grown meat” techniques to do the same with DNA evidence…might be something that would get you a contract with the CIA/NSA.

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