The Stroad
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The Stroad
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#2This feels like saying that we should only have supercomputers and low-power embedded devices, and nothing in between such as regular desktop computers.
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#3I don't think this article is making the point veey clearly, but it is a very important point: roads are for long distance connections at speed, streets are for local traffic: reaching houses, shops, people. These stroads try to do both and fail at both because the goals are contradictory; you can't have high speed traffic with lots of side streets and crossing traffic, bikes and pedestrians. It will be too slow for a road or too dangerous for a street, and probably both.
Separate traffic that requires different speeds.
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#4This feels like saying that we should only have supercomputers and low-power embedded devices, and nothing in between such as regular desktop computers.
Desktops are still a decent means to some ends. The argument made by Strong Towns is that the stroad is not a good means to it's ends.
It serves both it's ends badly.
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#5This feels like saying that we should only have supercomputers and low-power embedded devices, and nothing in between such as regular desktop computers.
It's more like trying to use desktop computerd to serve the purpose of both supercomputers and smartphones. It would suck at both tasks.
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#6I don't think this article is making the point veey clearly, but it is a very important point: roads are for long distance connections at speed, streets are for local traffic: reaching houses, shops, people. These stroads try to do both and fail at both because the goals are contradictory; you can't have high speed traffic with lots of side streets and crossing traffic, bikes and pedestrians. It will be too slow for…
Every time I end up on a five lane road with the center turning lane and tons of curb cuts and cross streets and abutting parking lots, I remind myself that it's one of the most dangerous places I am likely to be in.
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#7This feels like saying that we should only have supercomputers and low-power embedded devices, and nothing in between such as regular desktop computers.
No, a stroad is more like trying to do supercomputing tasks on a Raspberry Pi. Except you also expect it to get ridiculous perf/watt despite running at it's highest performance band all of the time. Oh, and you're also overclocking the Pi to the point that it explodes.
The point they're trying to make isn't "you should only have tiny side streets and massive highways, with nothing in between". It's "don't build roads that require you go from a driveway or parking lot straight into high speed six-lane traffic". Drivers need reserved space for speeding up and slowing down, something that stroads do not provide.
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#8Cool seeing strongtowns here. Not Just Bikes is a YouTube channel that has helped popularize them recently, and has a lot of other videos about what makes living in the Netherlands so great (i.e. it’s not just bikes, although that’s a big part of it).
Here’s Not Just Bikes’ video about Stroads: https://youtu.be/ORzNZUeUHAM
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#9Not Just Bikes has a good video about this, if you can get over the smugness ;)
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#10This feels like saying that we should only have supercomputers and low-power embedded devices, and nothing in between such as regular desktop computers.
You are trying to argue by analogy without providing any basis for why the analogy is valid.
(In math, that would be like saying that a homomorphism exists because you feel like it should)