Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentient beings under UK law

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Post by BerislavLopac » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:13 AM UTC

Octopuses, crabs and lobsters to be recognised as sentient beings under UK law
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Post by secondaryacct » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:49 AM UTC

At least after Brexit, they can't say they're unable to make their own laws... /bitter

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Post by sam0x17 » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:56 AM UTC

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Post by adamcharnock » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:56 AM UTC

Even as a meat eater I’m pretty shocked that this recognises them as sentient and yet does not ban their slaughter (aside from boiling them alive etc). Maybe I’ve read too much science fiction, but eating sentient beings seems Bad.

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Post by Mikeb85 » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:58 AM UTC

adamcharnock wrote: post #4

Even as a meat eater I’m pretty shocked that this recognises them as sentient and yet does not ban their slaughter (aside from boiling them alive etc). Maybe I’ve read too much science fiction, but eating sentient beings seems Bad.

I mean, we know cattle, sheep, chickens and pigs are sentient yet we consume them. Why would we make an exception for octopods and shellfish?

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Post by monkeybutton » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 12:59 AM UTC

Octopi I understand, but lobsters? They have less than half the nervous system of an ant [1]. Are individual ants sentient and worthy of legislating over?

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_by_number_of...

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Post by adamcharnock » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 1:00 AM UTC

Mikeb85 wrote: post #5

adamcharnock wrote: post #4

Even as a meat eater I’m pretty shocked that this recognises them as sentient and yet does not ban their slaughter (aside from boiling them alive etc). Maybe I’ve read too much science fiction, but eating sentient beings seems Bad.

I mean, we know cattle, sheep, chickens and pigs are sentient yet we consume them. Why would we make an exception for octopods and shellfish?

I guess I didn’t know that either. I should probably read into this in more detail…

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Post by otherotherchris » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 1:00 AM UTC

When exactly are they going to classify factory farmed pigs as sentient?

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Post by andrekandre » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 1:00 AM UTC

so, if they are sentient, they can still be eaten legally... then what is the red-line for allowing or not (an animal) to be eaten? sapience?

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Post by syntaxing » Mon, Nov 22, 2021, 1:00 AM UTC

adamcharnock wrote: post #4

Even as a meat eater I’m pretty shocked that this recognises them as sentient and yet does not ban their slaughter (aside from boiling them alive etc). Maybe I’ve read too much science fiction, but eating sentient beings seems Bad.

I’m pretty sure “meat” species like pig, cows, chicken, and etc are sentient beings…