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I really dislike the www bloat so I was excited to browse the list, unfortunately so far I mostly see ancap/libertarian/declinist posts (or just people who seem very sad and/or angry) as well as many far-right dogwhistles I recognize from 4chan. Can somebody recommend more, uh, uplifting BBS communities?
The Diamond Mine Online BBS (bbs.dmine.net) is a great place to start. :)
I really dislike the www bloat so I was excited to browse the list, unfortunately so far I mostly see ancap/libertarian/declinist posts (or just people who seem very sad and/or angry) as well as many far-right dogwhistles I recognize from 4chan. Can somebody recommend more, uh, uplifting BBS communities?
The Diamond Mine Online BBS (bbs.dmine.net) is a great place to start. :)
0: http://bbs.dmine.net/msgs/msg.ssjs?msg_sub=local-locdebat&me...
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The late 80's/early 90's when BBS's were probably at their peak were such a different time - politics were different and more civil, but also there was nothing like Facebook, no mass usage of cell phones, no streaming, you still made/received calls on your landline phone, you still went shopping at the mall, etc. A BBS isn't going to turn the whole clock back. What's amazing honestly is that 4chan started in '02 or '…
Back then people just didn’t take the kind of edgelording the OP is talking about seriously. When you saw a Nazi white supremacist following the left hand path and quoting Michael Acquino you rolled your eyes for the most part. Same goes for wacky conspiracy stuff in the 90s. It felt (and mostly was) harmless and full of in jokes going back to discordianism and such fnord. It was before absolutely every popular senti…
But those places are all moribund now, and the modern closed equivalent of those communities on decentralized services that I would love to be a part of are, by definition, closed to me because I've got a demanding job and kids and stuff. I might have enough time to participate in such a community, but nowhere near enough to try out a bunch and find one where I'd fit in. And an invite is unlikely, because if I were a part of a great closed community I'd be very cautious about bringing in outsiders.
But for younger people, with more time to join a group, participate for a while, realize it's not the right fit, try another one, etc, until they find a tribe they mesh with, I think what you're describing is spot on - meaningful online interactions will be driven out of the public eye, and traditional social media will grow to resemble Linkedin even more than it already does.
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The Diamond Mine Online BBS (bbs.dmine.net) is a great place to start. :)
Is this [0] sort of post common or uncommon on dmine? It immediately made me leave the site but maybe I was too quick to judge. 0: http://bbs.dmine.net/msgs/msg.ssjs?msg_sub=local-locdebat&me...
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Back then people just didn’t take the kind of edgelording the OP is talking about seriously. When you saw a Nazi white supremacist following the left hand path and quoting Michael Acquino you rolled your eyes for the most part. Same goes for wacky conspiracy stuff in the 90s. It felt (and mostly was) harmless and full of in jokes going back to discordianism and such fnord. It was before absolutely every popular senti…
> I really think the future is private enclaves, closed forums, etc. with strict rules to try to keep out not just trolls and idiots but more importantly bots. We are living in the twilight of the open Internet, at least as a medium of any kind of meaningful communication. All that will be left on the “clearnet” is a social media influencer hustle culture driven hellscape where half the participants are bots anyway.…
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Back then people just didn’t take the kind of edgelording the OP is talking about seriously. When you saw a Nazi white supremacist following the left hand path and quoting Michael Acquino you rolled your eyes for the most part. Same goes for wacky conspiracy stuff in the 90s. It felt (and mostly was) harmless and full of in jokes going back to discordianism and such fnord. It was before absolutely every popular senti…
I think you're right and prescient, and I'm sad that it's happening now that I'm old. In my 20s I had hours and hours and hours to burn on forums and BBSes and muds and such, and found my way in to some cool communities. I loved participating in them, the in-jokes, and even some of the drama involved. But those places are all moribund now, and the modern closed equivalent of those communities on decentralized service…
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Back then people just didn’t take the kind of edgelording the OP is talking about seriously. When you saw a Nazi white supremacist following the left hand path and quoting Michael Acquino you rolled your eyes for the most part. Same goes for wacky conspiracy stuff in the 90s. It felt (and mostly was) harmless and full of in jokes going back to discordianism and such fnord. It was before absolutely every popular senti…
> I really think the future is private enclaves, closed forums, etc. with strict rules to try to keep out not just trolls and idiots but more importantly bots. We are living in the twilight of the open Internet, at least as a medium of any kind of meaningful communication. All that will be left on the “clearnet” is a social media influencer hustle culture driven hellscape where half the participants are bots anyway.…
I have a much darker view. I think the global village was too easy a target for computer assisted large scale data driven con artistry.
Like I said: dark forest. All open systems with free entry will be destroyed by spam and abuse. No exceptions.
I feel like Qanon and January 6th was the end of the global village dream for many. The general public is just not ready to swim in a pool full of sharks using military grade psychological warfare on them. Why would they? Now it will only get worse since I’m sure every party and nation state is working on their own version.
I see a future where open social media is basically just propaganda shills and bots with armies of brainwashed followers fighting trench warfare forever… like a partly human version of DDOS botnet wars.
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The lossy compression that GSM uses is incompatible with the protocol used with modems, which assume the analog characteristics of real phone lines. People say this all the time on the internet, but in the 90's, I had a Nokia phone that could send faxes over GSM.
Fax connections over GSM required a special (read: expensive and inefficient) circuit-switched data service that was limited to 9600 bps, at least here in the U.S.A.: http://navasgroup.com/attwireless/gsm_data.htm
And Nethack/Slashem/Crawl over Telnet/SSH, OFC. A must have.
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> I really think the future is private enclaves, closed forums, etc. with strict rules to try to keep out not just trolls and idiots but more importantly bots. We are living in the twilight of the open Internet, at least as a medium of any kind of meaningful communication. All that will be left on the “clearnet” is a social media influencer hustle culture driven hellscape where half the participants are bots anyway.…
> I think creating a "global village" was interesting and empowering for most of humanity as a new thing that humans were capable of doing, but we all quickly realized that you can put a million people in a room together, but they won't have much to talk about together. I have a much darker view. I think the global village was too easy a target for computer assisted large scale data driven con artistry. Like I said:…