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New gaming laptop with innovative UI by Razer

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Hmmm. Strongly disagree with this. As a hacker rather than a gamer, the concept of a programmable set of LCD keys next to the standard keyboard is extremely interesting for native app development. I hope that particular feature is copied into a subsequent Macbook Pro release. It's really bringing the innovations pioneered by the iPhone (programmable UI rather than built-in keyboard) back to the laptop. Among other th…

It seems to me that that role is pretty well served by icons in the regular UI that the user's already looking at.

Apple's done this with great success in their re-use of the f-keys as system control buttons (as have other manufacturers.) I'm not sure most Mac users are even aware those are f-keys any more.

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These guys took out an ad in The Wall Street journal drumming up hype for this release.

Guys: I can buy a Sony Playstation 3 for a little over $200. Call it $300.

I can then buy an large television for $1000, and a solid set of speakers for $200.

That's $1500 all-in, for something that will play every single PS3 game flawlessly.

Why would I spend $2800 on this? What I am getting for $1300?

If it's the variety of PC games like minecraft, I can throw an additional $500 at a low-end gaming PC, hook it to my television, and play console and PC games.

A gaming laptop? Why?

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"Today, there hasn't been a single PC laptop that anyone has been passionate about for the longest time. It's not because there's no innovation, but [because] the big PC guys just don't want to innovate anymore," Min-Liang Tan, the CEO and Creative Director of Razer, told Ars. Completely true. For example Lenovo/Thinkpad stopped producing the 4:3 screens that all their business users loved. Too hard/expensive to prod…

I think part of the reason for the insane PC mouse industry is the relatively low cost of the periphreals and the (perceived) direct impact it has on the skill of the player playing a game. Where the PC gamer will drool over the 500$ amazing graphics card he can't afford, he can placate himself with a 70$ crazy ten-thousand button mouse. Why there isn't any innovation in laptop input devices I'm without a clue. It se…

Because it's a poor risk to take - you have this whole product you've designed, and if you built in an unproven pointing device and it flops, the whole product is a dud. At least with desktops a mouse or trackpad is cheap to replace, so a user might be willing to buy a computer with an unconventional input device knowing that it's only $50 to replace. Buy a laptop and find out you hate the pointing input, you're out 2 grand.

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These guys took out an ad in The Wall Street journal drumming up hype for this release. Guys: I can buy a Sony Playstation 3 for a little over $200. Call it $300. I can then buy an large television for $1000, and a solid set of speakers for $200. That's $1500 all-in, for something that will play every single PS3 game flawlessly. Why would I spend $2800 on this? What I am getting for $1300? If it's the variety of PC g…

You can actually get a laptop with the same specs for about 900€. (the only thing that missed is the little touch screen on the right, and the 17", it was 15.6)

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It seems to me that that role is pretty well served by icons in the regular UI that the user's already looking at.

But those need to be clicked with the mouse. Having a top 10 list of extremely common hotkeys in an app is just a lot more discoverable (for the non-expert or first-time user) and much faster (for all users) than finding the right icon to click.

You don't remember all the cardboard keyboard overlays that used to ship with software?

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I can't believe it took this long to make a non-apple laptop that isn't ugly. Simple, sleek and smooth. It really isn't that difficult.

Reading the quotes from Razer in the article, it really makes me angry at the big PC manufacturers and happy that HP got out. Nothing Apple does is truly that amazing or innovative. The difference is that Apple actually has the balls to try to produce a high quality product. Not expensive for the sake of being expensive like Sony, but quality worth paying for. HP and Dell would rather sell low margin crap at high vol…

Worth pointing out that until this announcement, Razer wasn't a PC manufacturer. Barring a concept laptop they showed at CES, Razer's only products have been mice, keyboards, gamepads, and headsets.

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I would definitely consider buying one. Why do people think that high priced, high design PC's can't sell when Apple has been selling exactly this with great success? The PC crowd has been lulled into cheap hardware but not everyone wants that. I typically buy high end Sony Vaio's just because of the sheer elegance of the product. I have raved on here about my Vaio Z, portable "workstation" power in 3 pounds of 13" g…

People think that because the high-end PC gear can't compete right now on price, design, longevity, toughness, etc. For instance, this laptop can't manage to hit the MacBook Pro price point, and it's in a plastic case, as opposed to a single-piece slab of aluminum. Which do you think will hold up better? Who would you rather deal with for warranty repairs and replacement? Which company is more likely to still be aliv…

this laptop can't manage to hit the MacBook Pro price point

If you configure a 17'' MacBook Pro to have similar specs as this, the MacBook Pro costs a little more.

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question - why is everyone making alumninium unibody notebooks ? Is carbon fiber not lighter and (arguably) just as strong. Is it just the design aesthetic that everyone is trying to reach out for or is there something else.

Because CF is still ridiculously expensive. It's cheaper now to make than before and you might see it around more often, but it's still an exotic material. Otherwise, we would see it everywhere.

I always thought that carbon fiber weaving was not widespread and thus that was one factor in the high cost of carbon fiber. For example when Lexus was building their LFA car they also built their own 3D CF loom. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry9uiP2I6kQ

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These guys took out an ad in The Wall Street journal drumming up hype for this release. Guys: I can buy a Sony Playstation 3 for a little over $200. Call it $300. I can then buy an large television for $1000, and a solid set of speakers for $200. That's $1500 all-in, for something that will play every single PS3 game flawlessly. Why would I spend $2800 on this? What I am getting for $1300? If it's the variety of PC g…

Selling expensive products to rich people is a lot easier than selling affordable products to poor people.
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