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Did you actually drove one? Or you just read somewhere about build quality?
I actually drove one for an extended test drive. Even the brand new car had stuff that wasn't on straight and already coming apart.
I'm guessing you went with a Honda?
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Marketing seems to be largely not correlated with revenue/sales, besides things like buying the badges to put on cars.
Source?
My point is that Tesla can achieve the same revenue levels without necessitating a 4x increase in marketing spend.
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Are these scores age-adjusted? If not this is particularly damning, as Tesla has one of the youngest fleets of cars out there.
Model S was launched almost 10 years ago, that's enough to get a car out of shape. Then, we're talking about a first generation product of a company learning how to deal with any of that. I don't find it surprising they're not outstanding. In fact, I've seen a brand new Model 3 last year... The amount of manufacturing defects and design issues its owner found in the first week would be unthinkable for a Skoda Fabia.…
I'd sy 80-90% are fine, but 1 in 10 or the gaps are so bad you can see the asymmetric gaps from 30+ ft away, most often Model Ys anecdotally. I even see what looks like added seals around sides of the rear hatch sometimes.
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This made me tremendously sad. I've been waiting for the Y 7 seater to reach Europe. Now I feel betrayed by none of the reviews I've ever glanced making this clear. And I'm at a loss on what car to hope for instead.
>And I'm at a loss on what car to hope for instead. If you can afford Porsche the Taycan is leagues beyond anything that Tesla offers from a quality and driving dynamics standpoint. The Taycan uses the 992 911's (latest generation) steering rack and it really shows. It provides lots of feedback and feels very precise and responsive. It feels like Porsche, it's not numb and toned down just because it's an EV. They're…
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> Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Having to open a menu for wipers is the opposite of that.
I disagree, modern wipers on auto sense just work. At least, they work far better than lane assisted cruise control. My major annoyance is the glove box. I probably only opened the glove box 3-4 times a year, but the inconvenience of navigating the touch screen for that far outweighs my cumulative annoyance about wipers, which is pretty nonexistent. I'm far more annoyed at massive view of the car and it's bad estimat…
Not from my experience. Having a dirty windshield or worn out wiper blades causes them to act erratically because the sensors aren't being properly cleaned. I've never heard of another manufacturer with rain sensing wipers removing the physical controls from them too. It's a horrible design choice.
I just finished 2k+ california => florida road trip in an electric car and can say with confidence that this comparison is total and utter garbage. Here are the factors that influence your total charge time. 1. Charger speeds vary from 50 kWh to 250 kWh. That's 5x difference just based on what charger you'll happen to use. 2. The energy usage (due to air resistance) is non-linear with speed. Driving at 85 mph could u…
> BTW: this is why EPA range is not representative. Their test is at 65 mph while my un-scientific observation of highway driving tells me people drive at least 75 mph. Wait, is this really the speed of long-distance driving in the US? I've just did the conversion and when I'm taking kids to see their grandma, we set the cruise control to 110mph for the most part.
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Sounds like you might not know how to charge properly. I’ve discovered that a lot of Tesla owners don’t. Five hours, for how many miles of a trip? Edit: Or maybe you did not buy the long range model, in which case you are forced to charge up into the top of the range, where charging is slowest. Yeah that’s bad.
Lol open with the attack ok. I assure you, I know how to charge properly haha. 2021 SR+ Model 3 and 12 hour drive turns into 17 hours when I did the trip planning for our last vacation using the Tesla trip planner. Believe me, I wanted it to work out.
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> BTW: this is why EPA range is not representative. Their test is at 65 mph while my un-scientific observation of highway driving tells me people drive at least 75 mph. Wait, is this really the speed of long-distance driving in the US? I've just did the conversion and when I'm taking kids to see their grandma, we set the cruise control to 110mph for the most part.
I think you must have got a bit confused. What km/hr do you think you just quoted?
Edit: this doesn't make it my average speed, as much of the time is spent decelerating because of whatever is happening and accelerating back. The average through that 850km stretch is likely closer to 160km/h, I should measure it one day. For the curious: over the whole 3000km roundtrip I seem to be burning fuel at about 7l/100km, or 33.6mpg.
And this yesterday/today: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... "issues with “heat pumps, air conditioning” and notoriously, misaligned panels. It’s also worth noting that Tesla’s Model X ranked dead-last among all cars for reliability, scoring a 5 out of 100." I'm wondering if Elon will lash out on twitter or be mean to elder…
Are these scores age-adjusted? If not this is particularly damning, as Tesla has one of the youngest fleets of cars out there.
Really... this seems like a study designed to get clicks and not make real predictions. An actual result with units saying something like "16% of vehicles surveyed lost more than 1 day of utility due to maintenance problems in their first year" would be really interesting. No one has that, alas. So we all end up arguing about bad science.
(My car is just great, FWIW.)
I’m sure there will be rotation in the leader place. I’m just glad there are now other brands matching the performance of Teslas. Their marketing and brand image, so popular with many people, are total anathema to me. I’m not in the market now but can’t see myself getting a Tesla.
Nobody is hitting the same range / power / price points as Tesla yet, but they are creeping up on it. Next gen model y may put them ahead some more though.