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Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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Academia can be likened more to a clergy or priesthood than a job. Although academics are expected to publish, it's not like the results or output are as tangible or quantifiable compared to most jobs.

Well, it's not that. Output is quantifiable and expected, try to survive doing your thing before tenure (at least and don't). Alas, the Republic of Letters is long gone. Kind of an ought-is problem.

Cornel West has only published 3-4 or so slim volumes in 4 decades. how does he still have a job?

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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I think the new ideas get accepted when either the old guard die, and/or an undeniable technology gets created by use of the new idea.

“ A new scientific truth does not generally triumph by persuading its opponents and getting them to admit their errors, but rather by its opponents gradually dying out and giving way to a new generation that is raised on it. […] An important scientific innovation rarely makes its way by gradually winning over and converting its opponents: it rarely happens that Saul becomes Paul. What does happen is that its opponent…

I don't think this is accurate. Sometimes the facts are so plain that the new truth wins (or, at least, the old truth dies) quickly without much fuss.

Perhaps the earliest example of this was the destruction of the Ptolemaic view of the solar system by Galileo's observation of the phases of Venus. This was a "killer fact" that rapidly (after 1611) led to abandonment of that venerable theory, even by its supporters (although Clavius would die soon after). Sales of the standard texts on Ptolemaic astronomy, Sacrobosco's Sphere and Peuerbach's Theoricae novae planetarum went into immediate terminal decline.

A more recent example is the Big Bang's success over the Steady State model. The cosmic microwave background radiation was such an overwhelming piece of evidence in favor of the former that only cranks persisted with the latter (including unfortunately Hoyle, admittedly.)

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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This line is what I think of whenever the cryptocurrency vitriol comes out here: """ Pets.com was mocked, but Chewy is now a $30 billion business. Webvan failed, but Instacart and UberEats are now thriving. eToys was a joke, but now look at Amazon. Some of the biggest businesses of the last 10 years are all in industries that were the starkest examples of stupidity 20 years ago. """

They laughed at Galileo, but they also laughed at Bozo the Clown.

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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Experts tend to be specialists, focused on silos and deep dives into specific domains.

The world is instead getting radically interconnected as "everything" is represented - more or less faithfully - by fungible bits. We are going through an "anti-specialization" phase, where everything is in principle connected to everything.

This amorphous digital ocean phase will probably not last, but it might be decades before a new landscape has settled.

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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> “Don’t buy stocks when the P/E ratio is over 20” was a good lesson to learn from the 1970s when interest rates were 7%, the Fed hadn’t yet learned what it’s capable of, and most businesses were cyclical manufacturing companies vs. asset-light digital services. Is it relevant today? At a broad, philosophical level, yes. In practical terms, probably not. In the same sense, buying stocks at all seemed like nothing but speculation in the 1920s because corporate disclosures were so opaque. By the 1970s that had changed, and you could begin to make rational, calculated long-term decisions that put the odds in your favor.

The funny thing is that exactly this kind of talk was all the rage leading up to both the 2000 and 2008 crashes. The boom makes it impossible to imagine what the bust will look like, and vice versa. Most people are utterly incapable of seeing 180 degrees through the business cycle. They simply can't do it and rather extrapolate current conditions to infinity.

This is a big part of boom/bust cycles. They are spaced out by just enough to entice a new group of greenhorns who ever more loudly beat the new paradigm drum. Then this new class learns that the business cycle is in fact immortal. But for many, it's a short-lived lesson.

And that part about making "rational, calculated long-term decisions" is amusing. Because it's during the boom that companies start to engage in accounting shenanigans. The book-cooking will all come out in the next bust, just like it always has. 100x + price-to-earnings multiples will cover a multitude of sins.

As Warren Buffet allegedly said, it's only when the tide goes out that you find out who's been swimming naked.

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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It's weird reading this as someone who identifies strongly as Gen X, witnessing how we can't seem to address existential threats like global climate change until the Boomers retire. Or a thousand other problems. I've spent the last 20+ years under a near-constant form of gaslighting where everybody told me my ideas would never work. Having to watch time and again as a different version of me wins the internet lottery…

Milton Friedman was a supporter of taxes on pollutants. He recognized that negative externalities are a case where government intervention is needed, and thought Pigovian taxes were the best way for government to do that. Were he alive today he'd be advocating carbon taxes.

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's not that. Output is quantifiable and expected, try to survive doing your thing before tenure (at least and don't). Alas, the Republic of Letters is long gone. Kind of an ought-is problem.

Cornel West has only published 3-4 or so slim volumes in 4 decades. how does he still have a job?

I don't know, I've mentioned tenure though. I know that Peter Higgs has published IIRC 11? papers and that he's talked about his former status at his departament and not being productive enough for the modern academic system.

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's not that. Output is quantifiable and expected, try to survive doing your thing before tenure (at least and don't). Alas, the Republic of Letters is long gone. Kind of an ought-is problem.

Cornel West has only published 3-4 or so slim volumes in 4 decades. how does he still have a job?

http://www.cornelwest.com/books.html#.YZlPiWiIY4M

Re: Experts from a world that no longer exists

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Everyone is seeing this all wrong.

Our problem is only with experts who linearly regress away other real people!

A politically empowered minority see the masses a rounding error.

Experts in economics tell us it’s OK to watch our family members die of preventable disease for profits sake.

That doesn’t mean we don’t need Fauci’s and Grace Hopper’s.

We need experts in qualifying physical reality not constraining criteria for success. Experts accept ideas are not sacrosanct.

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