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Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by CorrectHorseBat »

RangerScience wrote: post #143
fishywang wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing Tesla to Porsche is just ridiculous. Tesla might get some of the battery thing right, but they get so many car thing wrong. For example, that touchscreen. Using physical buttons and knobs to adjust things in the car means that the driver do not need to move their sight away from the road, and can do it blindly (because the buttons and knobs are physical that you can feel with your finger). With a huge touch…

Tesla owner. While driving, I rarely use the touchscreen, as the knobs + sticks that are available cover everything I need. Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Like - what do you even need, while driving? Music controls ("next", volume) and wipers, and blinkers? Done, and easily, and (nearly) clearly. The minimalism is (IMHO) beautiful and ve…

>Like - what do you even need, while driving?

Front and rear defrost, mist light, wipers, rear passenger airco are things I miss physical buttons for. Mist light is the most annoying since you can't even use voice control and it's fairly deep in the menu. Same thing for passenger airco.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by xdavidliu »

tmh88j wrote: post #148
RangerScience wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tesla owner. While driving, I rarely use the touchscreen, as the knobs + sticks that are available cover everything I need. Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Like - what do you even need, while driving? Music controls ("next", volume) and wipers, and blinkers? Done, and easily, and (nearly) clearly. The minimalism is (IMHO) beautiful and ve…

> Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Having to open a menu for wipers is the opposite of that.

this is only partially true; on my model Y you can manually wipe once by pressing a physical button on the left stick of steering wheel, though you’re still right about needing to use screen when switching between wiper speed settings

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by loser777 »

bwanab wrote: post #150

This is fishy. Not that I doubt it did indeed happen, but my experience is that finding non-Tesla high speed chargers on a road trip ranges from tricky and inconvenient to impossible. From that, I conclude that this was a well researched stunt using a specific route that had such a population of such chargers. I’m pretty sure that if the challenge were presented that assigned a specific, random route across the count…

Tesla’s charging network is now open to other vehicle types.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by lrem »

rich_sasha wrote: post #89
bastardoperator wrote: post #56

And this yesterday/today: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... "issues with “heat pumps, air conditioning” and notoriously, misaligned panels. It’s also worth noting that Tesla’s Model X ranked dead-last among all cars for reliability, scoring a 5 out of 100." I'm wondering if Elon will lash out on twitter or be mean to elder…

Are these scores age-adjusted? If not this is particularly damning, as Tesla has one of the youngest fleets of cars out there.

Model S was launched almost 10 years ago, that's enough to get a car out of shape. Then, we're talking about a first generation product of a company learning how to deal with any of that. I don't find it surprising they're not outstanding.

In fact, I've seen a brand new Model 3 last year... The amount of manufacturing defects and design issues its owner found in the first week would be unthinkable for a Skoda Fabia. If Tesla wasn't leap and bounds ahead on the drivetrain (including batteries), they'd be on their way out.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by tmh88j »

xdavidliu wrote: post #152
tmh88j wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Then, I find everything about the interfaces vastly, immensely superior to anything I've seen in any other car. Having to open a menu for wipers is the opposite of that.

this is only partially true; on my model Y you can manually wipe once by pressing a physical button on the left stick of steering wheel, though you’re still right about needing to use screen when switching between wiper speed settings

You still have to look at the screen to change them, which is especially ridiculous considering you're likely only to use wipers during inclement conditions when your eyes need to be on the road the most.

From my experience, most Tesla apologists do not have a good frame of reference for what other manufacturers offer in the same price point. It's usually their first car that was not an economy car/base model. Of course a Model S is going to feel like the greatest car on the planet if you've only been driving Camry's or whatever. There are so many nuances of experiencing a car that they just don't understand and have no interest in, because when it comes down to it they like the tech experience Tesla provides, not the experience of driving a car.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by geoduck14 »

kjksf wrote: post #30

I just finished 2k+ california => florida road trip in an electric car and can say with confidence that this comparison is total and utter garbage. Here are the factors that influence your total charge time. 1. Charger speeds vary from 50 kWh to 250 kWh. That's 5x difference just based on what charger you'll happen to use. 2. The energy usage (due to air resistance) is non-linear with speed. Driving at 85 mph could u…

Serious question: How was the drive? I'm in Texas and I like to drive to Orlando. Did you have to change your driving style much from do it in an EV?

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by boibombeiro »

jhgb wrote: post #127
pornel wrote: post #33

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The points you're making are valid, but the article is about a Guinness World Record. A world record is by definition the best case, and it must have been verified by Guinness. I don't think anyone expects their Sunday road trip to beat a world record.

World record in exactly what, however? Not in total trip time since the old record is way better than the new one in this respect (like, one third time of the new one). I'm pretty sure that if someone attempted that in a Tesla, it would be much better than at triple the speed. Apples and oranges here.

in time spent charging. it is in the article

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by cma »

nobrains wrote: post #100
convery wrote: post #87

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Not to defend the company, but degraded performance of the AC (which they cover under warranty) is probably not what most think of when they hear "reliability"..

In hot areas they do. AC reliability is a serious decision maker in vehicle buying decision in hot geographies.

Teslas require AC when parked in some year ranges because they didn't use automotive-grade touchscreens (which began delaminating). This then apparently started making some accumulate mold in the AC system somehow.

Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record

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Post by jhgb »

boibombeiro wrote: post #158
jhgb wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

World record in exactly what, however? Not in total trip time since the old record is way better than the new one in this respect (like, one third time of the new one). I'm pretty sure that if someone attempted that in a Tesla, it would be much better than at triple the speed. Apples and oranges here.

in time spent charging. it is in the article

In that case that's not even what the old ride was trying to minimize, which was apparently total trip time (driving+charging). Apples and oranges here.
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