I wonder why they call KIA a newcomer to the EV market, given that Kia Soul EV has been around since 2014.
Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
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Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#92I just finished 2k+ california => florida road trip in an electric car and can say with confidence that this comparison is total and utter garbage. Here are the factors that influence your total charge time. 1. Charger speeds vary from 50 kWh to 250 kWh. That's 5x difference just based on what charger you'll happen to use. 2. The energy usage (due to air resistance) is non-linear with speed. Driving at 85 mph could u…
> In extreme case, you can hypermile i.e. drive very slowly. For example someone in 2018 Model 3 did 606 miles on a single charge (a car rated at less than 300 miles). It just took them 32 hrs because they drove so slowly (https://www.theverge.com/2018/5/29/17405906/tesla-model-3-hy...)
It was done on a closed loop track 1 mile long driving 20-30mph.
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#93And this yesterday/today: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... "issues with “heat pumps, air conditioning” and notoriously, misaligned panels. It’s also worth noting that Tesla’s Model X ranked dead-last among all cars for reliability, scoring a 5 out of 100." I'm wondering if Elon will lash out on twitter or be mean to elder…
He will try to sell as much Tesla stock as he can ;)
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
We tried one of those. It’s a spaceship for the driver and a Corolla for the passengers. Super uncomfortable for everyone but the driver. My MIL who never gets carsick got carsick in it.
The doors are also a completely bonkers and impractical design. I'm not sure they couldn't just install sliding doors instead.
But then it would be... ... a minivan!
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#95I just finished 2k+ california => florida road trip in an electric car and can say with confidence that this comparison is total and utter garbage. Here are the factors that influence your total charge time. 1. Charger speeds vary from 50 kWh to 250 kWh. That's 5x difference just based on what charger you'll happen to use. 2. The energy usage (due to air resistance) is non-linear with speed. Driving at 85 mph could u…
> The energy usage (due to air resistance) is non-linear with speed. Driving at 85 mph could use twice as much energy as driving at 65 mph. Does this mean I'll use twice as much gas when driving an ICE car at 85 vs 65? Or do gas cars have a higher constant factor or something that makes air resistance relatively less important?
Others answered about engines efficiencies.
air resistance doesn’t care whether the motive force is a gas engine, electric motors, nuclear powering steam turbines, Flinstone feet, or a wound up spring. All that matters is the cars form factor, i.e. the shape and texture of the outer shell.
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#96I’m sure there will be rotation in the leader place. I’m just glad there are now other brands matching the performance of Teslas. Their marketing and brand image, so popular with many people, are total anathema to me. I’m not in the market now but can’t see myself getting a Tesla.
I mean, they make dope cars.
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
We tried one of those. It’s a spaceship for the driver and a Corolla for the passengers. Super uncomfortable for everyone but the driver. My MIL who never gets carsick got carsick in it.
The doors are also a completely bonkers and impractical design. I'm not sure they couldn't just install sliding doors instead.
It was a successful marketing stunt.
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#98And this yesterday/today: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... "issues with “heat pumps, air conditioning” and notoriously, misaligned panels. It’s also worth noting that Tesla’s Model X ranked dead-last among all cars for reliability, scoring a 5 out of 100." I'm wondering if Elon will lash out on twitter or be mean to elder…
Not to defend the company, but degraded performance of the AC (which they cover under warranty) is probably not what most think of when they hear "reliability"..
Drivetrain failures on modern cars are much less common, ICE or EV. Reliability nowadays is mostly about things like AC and all the tech on the cars. I’ve had friends lemon cars over rattling and squeak or radio cutting off randomly, that service wasn’t able to fix.
My car is reliable, as in, it drives, applies nowadays mostly to old beaters, that you buy only to drive and fix anything with a duct tape.
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vehicle to load capability is nice too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AlfsRk21TU It's a feature of Hyundai's E-GMP platform cars (Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5, Genesis GV60).
I put my eyes on the Ioniq 5 but I think its aerodynamics are worse than the EV6 (but I have no numbers and I'm not an expert). Anyway this record is about charging time, not energy usage. E-GMP supports fast load with 350kW chargers, and I'm pretty sure that, being a benchmark, they used all the tricks up in their sleeves.
The article is about how in a real world test they charged faster than Teslas.
YouTube has a lot of amateur enthusiast videos of real world range tests and charging speeds and things for most electric vehicles. People drive different electric cars to meet at some random charging station and compare their efficiency and recharging.
(I should know, I attentively watched a bunch before testing and then ordering an EV6 last week :) )
Re: Kia EV6 Smashes Tesla's World Record
#100And this yesterday/today: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/Tesla-ranks-almost-dead-... "issues with “heat pumps, air conditioning” and notoriously, misaligned panels. It’s also worth noting that Tesla’s Model X ranked dead-last among all cars for reliability, scoring a 5 out of 100." I'm wondering if Elon will lash out on twitter or be mean to elder…
Not to defend the company, but degraded performance of the AC (which they cover under warranty) is probably not what most think of when they hear "reliability"..
In hot areas they do. AC reliability is a serious decision maker in vehicle buying decision in hot geographies.