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Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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All companies play politics to gain customer's hearts and minds ($$$). All FAANGs play this game masterfully.

Google’s slogan was once: “Do no evil”

No, it was "don' be evil." You can do a lot of evil and still not be evil if you adopt a utilitarian position and claim that the good you've done outweighs it.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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From the article: Has this happened to anyone else, or was this user error of some sort? If this is real, can some reporter write about it? (Not that “user error” is a good justification. Any system where making a simple mistake means that you’ve forever lost your privacy isn’t a good one. We see this same situation with sharing contact lists with apps on smartphones. Apps will repeatedly ask, and only need you to ac…

Why does the presenters describe their appearance and clothes? Is that supposed to be some sort of accessibility thing (for blind people)? If so, how does it help blind people to know that someones top is sleeveless and that they have dark hair?

>Is that supposed to be some sort of accessibility thing

Probably. I remember being on some microsoft site a few months ago, and noticed all the photos had alt-text describing their contents.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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One more reason not to log in using your Microsoft account at all.

Microsoft makes this extremely difficult, even for an offline account. If you log into any Microsoft product (Office, Teams, Skype OneDrive, etc), Windows forces you to log into everything else. This is especially infuriating with Office, as they make it extremely difficult to get a standalone product, they very aggressively push Office 364, so you are forced to log into Office to even use it.

>If you log into any Microsoft product (Office, Teams, Skype OneDrive, etc), Windows forces you to log into everything else.

No? Unless something changed, I specifically remember it asking me whether I wanted to sign into the OS, or that app only.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft makes this extremely difficult, even for an offline account. If you log into any Microsoft product (Office, Teams, Skype OneDrive, etc), Windows forces you to log into everything else. This is especially infuriating with Office, as they make it extremely difficult to get a standalone product, they very aggressively push Office 364, so you are forced to log into Office to even use it.

The only common thing in all of those is Microsoft. I think the solution to the problem is obvious.

There's another common thing in all of those: Computers.

For many people, "Just stop using Microsoft" is about as useful as "Just stop using computers"

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why does the presenters describe their appearance and clothes? Is that supposed to be some sort of accessibility thing (for blind people)? If so, how does it help blind people to know that someones top is sleeveless and that they have dark hair?

>Is that supposed to be some sort of accessibility thing Probably. I remember being on some microsoft site a few months ago, and noticed all the photos had alt-text describing their contents.

For photos I can understand it (if they contain meaningful content), but to me this seems like a text-to-speech tool saying "a black button with white text, slightly rounded borders that sits close to the preceding text and slightly down from the menu above" instead of stating the buttons text or aria-label.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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If true, I don't understand how this is surprising. Google has been using all possible tactics to convince users to give them ("sync") all their data, including bookmarks and passwords. So from the point of view of Nadella, why should MS be any different?

Chrome lets you locally encrypt sync'd data with a password.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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One more reason not to log in using your Microsoft account at all.

Sucks that Windows forcibly pairs your local account and Microsoft account every once in a while with no opt-out.

This nearly bricked one of my laptops because it changed the local password login to use the microsoft account.
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