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It's perfectly OK to "gatekeep" against falsehoods and those who spread those falsehoods. In fact, a functioning society depends on weeding out falsehoods, otherwise everything goes down the toilet.
Does that mean functioning societies have no religion?
I have a developing conjecture that in order to address the perceived problem of higher male per capita in certain occupations, attracting males into occupations with higher female ratios is as important as incentivizing female participation in high-male occupations. I'm no mathematician but I see it in terms of system numbers: Given a set of occupations with different sex ratios, to change the ratio of any specific…
> Given a set of occupations with different sex ratios, to change the ratio of any specific occupation the ratios of other occupations must also change. Logically there is an alternative: one sex can withdraw from the labor market. Male labor force participation is declining.[1] Female labor force participation is declining at a slightly lower rate.[2] 1. 80% -> 74.5%, 1990-2019. https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/…
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There is an observation that men typically like to work with things while women with people all other things being equal. There are speculations that it depends on hormonal balance during pregnancy, but what ever the reason it exists. So by that software development naturally is dominated by men (code is the thing) while professions like veterinary (that pays higher in US than programming) is dominated by women (as m…
It is an possible theory, but in my view I tend to agree to an quite old theory that I saw referenced in an other Swedish study conducted by the department for higher education. They asked why so few men end up in the teacher profession, and the primary theory presented was based on a (if I remember right) 1950 study. A person on average tend to be more comfortable and confident in decisions if its mimics behavior of…
This is an interesting low-blame description of a phenomenon that might otherwise be described as discrimination because of a hostile work environment.
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There is an observation that men typically like to work with things while women with people all other things being equal. There are speculations that it depends on hormonal balance during pregnancy, but what ever the reason it exists. So by that software development naturally is dominated by men (code is the thing) while professions like veterinary (that pays higher in US than programming) is dominated by women (as m…
It is an possible theory, but in my view I tend to agree to an quite old theory that I saw referenced in an other Swedish study conducted by the department for higher education. They asked why so few men end up in the teacher profession, and the primary theory presented was based on a (if I remember right) 1950 study. A person on average tend to be more comfortable and confident in decisions if its mimics behavior of…
My own anecdotal observation for Norway matches this. Norway is the top of charts regarding gender equality. Yet for example, family lawyers, a highly paid profession, here are mostly women, a complete reversal of situation that was 50 years ago.
In software development the gender inequality increased during the last 20 years especially if one accounts that many women in IT here are immigrants. They find it is easier to get a job without good knowledge of Norwegian (in IT in Norway English is typically enough) even if such jobs are not something that they prefer all other things considered equal.
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> Nope. All evidence shows that human psychology is a mix of biology and culture. Who are you nope-ing? Because your comment aligns to my beliefs just fine…
I thought the same thing, if you used quotation marks it would have been a little clearer you were quoting someone my 2 cents
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I've not been able to wrap my head around this issue. What is the thinking behind the desire to even sex ratios in various profession? Why are some professions receiving more attention than others when it comes to evening sex ratios. Is a perfect world when every construction site, hospital, and dreary programming job (lets be honest most of them aren't fun) has an even mix of the sexes? What is the benefit? Can some…
it's hard to give a non-political answer because it's really about money and who gets it. on average, men make more money than women. a lot of people (especially women) consider this to be unfair. software engineer is one of the highest paid roles for someone with only a bachelor's degree. most software engineers are men. if your goal is to decrease the income gap between men and women, it probably seems easier to ge…
I doubt women are significantly more inclined to think this arrangement is unfair. I believe social progressives think it’s unfair, and the media would have us believe that women and racial minorities are largely socially progressive when in fact they aren’t (consider that only a small minority of blacks support defunding the police and women’s and men’s views on abortion are very similar).
In any case, not all compensation is monetary, and it’s widely understood that women prioritize flexibility and other perks over money directly, while men optimize for monetary compensation. Further, much of the money made by men is spent by women anyway—in married households, women spend the majority of the money.
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it's hard to give a non-political answer because it's really about money and who gets it. on average, men make more money than women. a lot of people (especially women) consider this to be unfair. software engineer is one of the highest paid roles for someone with only a bachelor's degree. most software engineers are men. if your goal is to decrease the income gap between men and women, it probably seems easier to ge…
This may not be the case in Europe. Sw engineer profession is roughly as male dominated, but I think you'll need a msc/PhD level in EU and with that kind of diploma IT pays vastly less than in US.
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I've not been able to wrap my head around this issue. What is the thinking behind the desire to even sex ratios in various profession? Why are some professions receiving more attention than others when it comes to evening sex ratios. Is a perfect world when every construction site, hospital, and dreary programming job (lets be honest most of them aren't fun) has an even mix of the sexes? What is the benefit? Can some…
I think it is a matter of perceived status. Whenever I see complaint about lack of diversity in some field, it is something that is not only white-male dominated but also high status relative to similar endeavors. People who want to increase representation in higher status areas are trying to improve the perceived status of their cultural group. A type that I encounter is persons of some demographic who want to see g…
If status here means “respect” rather than “wealth”, there are precious few groups with lower status than that of white males these days. At least in many places, “white male” is practically a slur.
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This may not be the case in Europe. Sw engineer profession is roughly as male dominated, but I think you'll need a msc/PhD level in EU and with that kind of diploma IT pays vastly less than in US.
This has always struck me as strange. Software is surely one of the most easily exported commodities, so surely Europeans can easily play in the same global software market as Americans and moreover, I’m of the impression that software engineers in Europe are largely unionized so one would think they’d be able to bargain more effectively for better salaries.
That somewhat varies by country (i.e. a bunch of Swedish developers I know are, just because it's so common there for entire companies to have blanket union contracts for everyone), but in general: no.
I have a developing conjecture that in order to address the perceived problem of higher male per capita in certain occupations, attracting males into occupations with higher female ratios is as important as incentivizing female participation in high-male occupations. I'm no mathematician but I see it in terms of system numbers: Given a set of occupations with different sex ratios, to change the ratio of any specific…
I've not been able to wrap my head around this issue. What is the thinking behind the desire to even sex ratios in various profession? Why are some professions receiving more attention than others when it comes to evening sex ratios. Is a perfect world when every construction site, hospital, and dreary programming job (lets be honest most of them aren't fun) has an even mix of the sexes? What is the benefit? Can some…
Diversity in general is good because you'll get different ideas into the mix and will be more likely to be able to envision and explore different possibilities.
Make sense?