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Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by netcan » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 9:01 AM UTC

imiric wrote: post #28

twelvechairs wrote: post #10

Incredible to see such a new device in a space where there has been little real invention in 100 years (since the elevator/lift). I'm interested in the building code implications of this. I assume you can't replace a staircase with this due to fire egress requirements, and at the top you have to have some sort of complex gate (notably not shown in the video) to prevent people from falling off.

I don't see it as a replacement for stairs, it's too impractical for general use. The only use case seems to be for what their demo video shows, people with limited mobility.

Space requirements are very different to stairs or other lifts.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by goldenkey » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 9:03 AM UTC

fingerlocks wrote: post #38

goldenkey wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope I never have to use this. Knowing myself, I'd typo the knot and fall to my death.

This is how it’s taught in intro mountaineering courses. In the real world experienced alpinists carry a lightweight ascender, like a Micro Traction or similar, that can also be used for other tasks like hauling or fall protection for simul-leading.

Is that essentially a one way rachet? All you need to climb easily is prevention of regress and maybe some mechanical advantage, right?

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by adolph » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 9:04 AM UTC

Looks like they reinvented the paternoster except made it manually operated by use of one’s glutes and only one person can ride at a time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paternoster_lift

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by fingerlocks » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 9:20 AM UTC

goldenkey wrote: post #72

fingerlocks wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how it’s taught in intro mountaineering courses. In the real world experienced alpinists carry a lightweight ascender, like a Micro Traction or similar, that can also be used for other tasks like hauling or fall protection for simul-leading.

Is that essentially a one way rachet? All you need to climb easily is prevention of regress and maybe some mechanical advantage, right?

Yes

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by qwertox » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 9:32 AM UTC

NathanielK wrote: post #31

teraflop wrote: post #5

In case anyone else was irritated by the inability to scrub through the auto-playing video, adding this CSS rule in your browser's dev tools should fix it: .vp-progress { display: block !important; }

http://www.rombout.design/verticalwalking.html Has some video of pictures of it working so you don't have to wait blindly for it.

This should be on top.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by Tempat » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 9:38 AM UTC

SilkRoadie wrote: post #63

In small houses I have always thought that stairs take up so much space for something which is used a couple of times a day. I have always thought a vertical solution would be better. This isn’t that solution for a variety of reasons. It is nice to see innovation in this area though.

I wonder if a faster solution for more able-bodied people would be, instead of having a platform for sitting and a platform for standing, you could have two small platforms, one for each foot.

It’d be essentially like walking up stairs, but on the spot.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by bryans » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 10:09 AM UTC

Cerium wrote: post #36

DanielVZ wrote: post #33

This reminds me a lot of a video of a retired man that uses his new free time moving large objects just by leveraging gravity. I can't find it right now but I think that there's a potential there for new ways movement just like the vertiwalk.

Perhaps you are thinking of Wally Wallington? A retired carpenter who produced some videos on moving Stonehenge sized blocks? https://web.archive.org/web/20160302003628/http://www.thefor...

That was a great read and reminded me of the Coral Castle. I wish there were similar video of Ed moving those coral blocks around.

https://coralcastle.com/whos-ed/

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by timwaagh » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 10:10 AM UTC

It has the feeling of a demo project although maybe revalidation centers could perhaps use them.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by Borrible » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 10:23 AM UTC

thanhhaimai wrote: post #56

I think Vertiwalk might be a solution for people who want to exercise. But if the main issue is to travel between floors, I think installing your own mini elevator might be a better solution. It doesn't take much more space, but it's fast and can carry the wheel chair with you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqMZfQODJZo

Or a stairlift.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stairlift

Should be around five to ten thousand Dollar. Or you lease one for the rest of your life for about 50-100$ per month. You do the math.

The electric stair climber wheelchairs are unlikely to be a competitor because of their price. But still some believe in them.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/scewo-wheelchair-can...

https://www.scewo.com/en/

But than again, people like do believe in many things.

Re: Vertiwalk Vertical Walking

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Post by hellbannedguy » Sat, Nov 20, 2021, 10:23 AM UTC

I'm glad there are people looking for better ways to get around.

A lot of older people have bad knees.

I like the direction of this device, but put a motor in it.

(I think the whole point of handicapped devices is function, then cost, and even aesthetics.

My mom needs grab bars, etc., but still cares how it looks.)