UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
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Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#2UC schools have already become dubious - the entitlement of grads, the actual LACK of skills, not remotely "hungry" enough to have any grit or motivation, etc.
My father (an engineering manager) always said: "If you want GOOD employees, you never want to hire from UCB, Stanford, Cal Tech, etc. The best engineers in California come from Cal Poly SLO and Cal Poly Pomona. They are actually trained as engineers".
This is only proving that a college degree is not enough to qualify most graduates for any job. Better to hire from 2nd tier schools instead and even to consider HS grads on some cases. If they are more trainable than your typical entitled university degree holder, they are a better ROI, hands-down.
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#3UC schools have already become dubious - the entitlement of grads, the actual LACK of skills, not remotely "hungry" enough to have any grit or motivation, etc. My father (an engineering manager) always said: "If you want GOOD employees, you never want to hire from UCB, Stanford, Cal Tech, etc. The best engineers in California come from Cal Poly SLO and Cal Poly Pomona. They are actually trained as engineers". This is…
How many Cal Poly SLO grads at Stripe (or choose any stratospheric make-you-rich company you like) compared to Stanford grads?
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#4As a Cal grad this is an easy reason to point to the next time I reject an alumni donation call.
If the goal is to accept more students on merit, this is a big failure in my opinion: rich kids can just game the “holistic” admissions with opportunities not available to middle/lower class students (“volunteer” trips, extracurriculars, etc.).
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#5UC schools have already become dubious - the entitlement of grads, the actual LACK of skills, not remotely "hungry" enough to have any grit or motivation, etc. My father (an engineering manager) always said: "If you want GOOD employees, you never want to hire from UCB, Stanford, Cal Tech, etc. The best engineers in California come from Cal Poly SLO and Cal Poly Pomona. They are actually trained as engineers". This is…
“ This is only proving that a college degree is not enough to qualify most graduates for any job. Better to hire from 2nd tier schools instead and even to consider HS grads on some cases.”
How many students from Stanford, Caltech, Berkeley founded their own companies? How many from cal poly?
Why the massive difference?
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
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#7Wonderfully empowering for the admissions administrators! Schools will be needing to keep on a lot of low-level staff:
>record-breaking number of freshman applications for fall 2021 — more than 200,000
>evaluate the flood of applications without test scores, using 13 other factors
https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/counselors/fres...
>Factors we consider
>Identification by UC as being ranked in the top 9 percent of their high school class ("eligible in the local context," or ELC).
>Academic accomplishments in light of a student's life experiences and special circumstances.
>Location of a student's secondary school and residence.
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#8UC schools have already become dubious - the entitlement of grads, the actual LACK of skills, not remotely "hungry" enough to have any grit or motivation, etc. My father (an engineering manager) always said: "If you want GOOD employees, you never want to hire from UCB, Stanford, Cal Tech, etc. The best engineers in California come from Cal Poly SLO and Cal Poly Pomona. They are actually trained as engineers". This is…
“ This is only proving that a college degree is not enough to qualify most graduates for any job. Better to hire from 2nd tier schools instead and even to consider HS grads on some cases.” How many students from Stanford, Caltech, Berkeley founded their own companies? How many from cal poly? Why the massive difference?
That's a backwards-looking indicator; the changes to admissions criteria under discussion now will have their effect upon businesses of the future.
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#9"faculty could find no alternative exam that would avoid the biased results"
They are too weak to say "SAT hasn't produced the results we wanted, so we're going to..."
"seek more equitable ways to assess a student"
They're again, too weak to say "from now on, admissions will be based on color".
"the state exam ... would disproportionately favor Asian Americans"
Oh, the horror, tests show that Asians are smart. Can't let that happen.
If a square peg doesn't fit a round hole, we just need to use a bigger hammer.
Re: UC slams the door on standardized admissions tests, nixing any SAT alternative
#10This is a positive development. We need to minimize the extent to which people are exposed to math (which quite obviously reeks of white supremacy, according to like everyone I know including the Gates Foundation)
[1] https://www.newsweek.com/math-suffers-white-supremacy-accord...