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Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

#31

You technically do not own a domain, but you lease it them. "ICANN's official policy is that domains are not property to be owned. Domain names are registered (rented) by payment of an annual registration fee."

When existing tenants get to extract arbitrary rent to transfer their lease, it sure looks a lot like property ownership to me.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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post #25

the entire existence of the .io registry and the people running it, presently making money from it are highly suspicious, it's supposed to be for the benefit and use of the people who lived in what's now called the "british indian ocean territory" in the general area of diego garcia. this is a place from which the natives were evicted by force. I somehow doubt they're getting any financial benefit from it. https://en…

If the Chinese did this the press would write about the genocide in Diego Garcia etc.... The UN resolution (international norms???) and International Court of Justice (ICJ) is being violated by the UK and US: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-mauritius-un-idUS...

Hang on a second: how is the US violating anything here? You’re roughly saying that the UK’s error transmits to the US because they lawfully leased land to the US that they consider theirs.

Of course the US is going to lobby to keep the base, and of course it’s horrific that thousands were forcefully removed to build it (and the US should compensate for that), but any interpretation where the US is in international error here due to Mauritian sovereignty considerations is plainly transparent in its purpose (particularly in a comment that references China off the bat).

That’s the UK’s problem. Notice the Mauritian prime minister in the very article you linked only discussed problems with the UK.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

#33
Tell them you will not be returning it and if they do take away your access you will pursuing legal action.

Do you think you could ever convince them by saying hey I saw this domain was available but came back 2 days later and it's not available, can you still get it for me? The answer is unequivocally no.

Know your right and defend them against overreach of private entities.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

#34
few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, and I purchased, few days later godaddy came back and refund me the 20 dollar and took away the domain. One thing I learned is that never use a registrar search engine as they check domain with high search or interest and they immediately buy it before you.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, a…

Is this frontrunning?

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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post #9

2 Days ago management of .io registry was transfered from Afilias to Donuts (Due to an acquisition). It is likely that during that window you registered the domain and they are now cleaning up the issue. It may be your registrar took your registration and then when they went to actually process it the registry was down, so someone else got it during that period. It could be other things, however, the bottom line is t…

At least right now I control the domain. I think the registry messed up as they allowed my registration, not the registar. Thanks for the info on the migration, that could indeed explain this.

If you have control of it you _might_ actually be the one that nabbed it, and somebody else complained they couldn't manage it.

If this is the case, under no circumstance tell your registrar you're okay with losing it and dig your heels HARD.

Either way you should get a cert for it with the longest expiration you can ASAP while you control it ;)

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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post #36

few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, a…

Is this frontrunning?

Yes, and it's a well-known practice of scummy registrars like godaddy.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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post #36

few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, a…

Is this frontrunning?

It is! Trading your own account in front of a client's order with knowledge of your client's order is, indeed, frontrunning!

However, given domains are not securities and domain registrars are not FINRA members or registered securities broker-dealers, I don't think this is "frontrunning" in the sense that you're used to hearing the word.

So who knows if it's even illegal, and even if it is, who knows what recourse anyone has about it, given how quasi-legal and international the ownership of domains is.

Re: Ask HN: I purchased a domain and now the registry wants to take it back

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post #36

few days ago, i tried to purchase a domain on godaddy, I didn't buy it as I had to get approval from my manager so I left it in the cart and that time I was using my cellphone. Then after 3 days, I came back to godaddy through my PC and saw that the domain is now premium and they want amount close $3000 . I was kind of shocked. but then on my phone I noticed that item is still in my cart with the 20 dollar pricing, a…

Is this frontrunning?

yes, it is. I was thinking taking them to consumer protection court, but I realized it is not worth my time.
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