This comes after Marriott Cena appologized to China for listing Taiwan as a country on its website. https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/news/companies/marriott-chi...
Marriott refused to host Uyghur conference, citing “political neutrality”
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#62Actively refusing is the least passive/neutral thing they could have done. Now they’ve obligated themselves (morally) to refuse Chinese political meeting bookings as well, but we won’t see that happen Opinion: Due to Chinese human rights abuses AND the threats against American business, the US should not attend the upcoming Beijing Olympics
> Opinion: Due to Chinese human rights abuses AND the threats against American business, the US should not attend the upcoming Beijing Olympics In a vacuum, I fully agree with protesting China to the fullest extent; however, if scientists are to be believed, these things (human rights, trade, etc violations) trifle in comparison to the climate change threat, and China has all of humanity by the throat here. We need a…
Hey, pollution is bad, so let's just forget about every other issue affecting humanity.
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#63Marriott decided to avoid poking the bear by stepping on the proverbial mouse. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense, but moralistically, it does not. It is very disappointing that even I, as an Asian individual living in Canada, am disincentivized from expressing even my own opinion on China and HK/Taiwan, etc. due to the perceived threat of "consequences" from a government whose reach I cannot easily…
The management of this Marriot Hotel did yes, but it's encouraging that Marriot's corporate management immediately overruled the Hotel on this and apologised to the group. Marriot do have a spotty history on such issues, but I think we should commend them when they attempt to do the right thing. Yes this shouldn't have happened in the first place, but given that it did they do seem to be doing their best to make it r…
> it's encouraging that Marriot's corporate management immediately overruled the Hotel on this and apologised to the group.
Where are you seeing this?
Re: Marriott refused to host Uyghur conference, citing “political neutrality”
#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
This would work about as well as appeasing the Nazis did
Here are a couple of not-rhetorical questions for you: * Which is worse in your mind? China's treatment of the Uyghurs or global civilizational collapse? * Does holding China accountable for its treatment of Uyghurs increase or decrease the likelihood that China will cooperate on climate?
You're being silly.
The US can quietly cancel China by just banning them from US capital markets. Trump almost did, but ran out of time.
China will never "cooperate on climate" since they have 3,000 coal electric plants (6x the US.)
Re: Marriott refused to host Uyghur conference, citing “political neutrality”
#65> Also in 2018, Marriott fired a U.S.-based employee who used a company Twitter account to like a post by a pro-Tibet group.
This is far more significant than the headline.
Re: Marriott refused to host Uyghur conference, citing “political neutrality”
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the issues with the Olympics in general no one should attend.
I believe there are new calls to boycott because of Peng Shuai's disappearance. It seems so strange to me that this is such a mystery. Can't reporters go to her home and ring the bell?
Think about what country they'd be doing this in.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not a fan of China myself, but there's some evidence[1] that the two Canadians arrested were, in fact, spies. Personally, I'm not sure what to think. But tweets like this from CSIS[2] are certainly suggestive when viewed in a certain light. [1] https://canadianpatriot.org/2021/09/29/michael-kovrig-and-sp... [2] https://twitter.com/csiscanada/status/1441576564374769665
Oh come on. It's amazing how a pro-communist editorial has to so thoroughly twist itself up in knots to support the CCP narrative (which it simply regurgitates whole), that it ends up painting a lefty liberal group like the ICG as a sinister imperialist front. It even manages to paint these guy's pro-North Korean activities and promotion of a positive image of NK as somehow evidence of their Imperialist agenda. One o…
I'll admit that my first link is unfortunately pretty poor. Finding any significant investigative journalism on the topic is difficult.
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#68Earlier quoted context omitted.
The management of this Marriot Hotel did yes, but it's encouraging that Marriot's corporate management immediately overruled the Hotel on this and apologised to the group. Marriot do have a spotty history on such issues, but I think we should commend them when they attempt to do the right thing. Yes this shouldn't have happened in the first place, but given that it did they do seem to be doing their best to make it r…
> it's encouraging that Marriot's corporate management immediately overruled the Hotel on this and apologised to the group. Where are you seeing this?
Maybe not overruled, but called out:
> The Marriott spokesperson clarified in a statement to Axios that hosting the conference would not have violated any "political neutrality" policy, and said the reference to "corporate management" in the email referred to "hotel-level management."
> "We are working with the hotel team to provide additional training and education on our longstanding practices of inclusion," she said.
Re: Marriott refused to host Uyghur conference, citing “political neutrality”
#69Marriott decided to avoid poking the bear by stepping on the proverbial mouse. From a business perspective, it makes perfect sense, but moralistically, it does not. It is very disappointing that even I, as an Asian individual living in Canada, am disincentivized from expressing even my own opinion on China and HK/Taiwan, etc. due to the perceived threat of "consequences" from a government whose reach I cannot easily…
> From a business perspective And that is our fault, to a great extent. By "we", here I mean citizens of western countries that put up with this bullshit. When one of "our" companies engages in this shameful authoritarian appeasement we should boycott them to oblivion. If we fail to do so, we are enabling this behavior. There's not much that we can do about human rights abuses in other countries. But there's a lot th…
I believe sustaining such a boycott is nearly impossible if you don't have the news-media on your side. This is because you need to convince the average, not particularly engaged citizen to join in the boycott. And, after the initial outrage you need media attention keep the boycott relevant in people's minds.
I don't sense our news-media wants to fight this fight.
Re: Marriott refused to host Uyghur conference, citing “political neutrality”
#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the issues with the Olympics in general no one should attend.
I believe there are new calls to boycott because of Peng Shuai's disappearance. It seems so strange to me that this is such a mystery. Can't reporters go to her home and ring the bell?
I remember seeing some YouTube video that politically sensitive people are under "house arrest" in a high-rise apartment, and there are plain clothes police who guard the entrance (the apartment buildings have another gate at the beginning of the neighborhood, like a US gated community) and probably check the ID of unknown faces, ask them who they're there to see, and can refuse entry. If you said "I'm just here to see Joe Sixpack" they'll probably ask Joe if he knew you...
Also, getting even a tourist/any kind of visa if your occupation is "journalist" is hard enough, I think they'd probably google you and see what you've written about China...