German state planning to switch 25,000 PCs to LibreOffice

Post by hdjjhhvvhga » Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 10:12 AM UTC

deknos wrote: post #326

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #271

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I think the truth between what you say and the other person accusing you of being biased is somewhere in the middle. They basically went too mach ahead of the time. Mind you, the project started 18 years ago! The computing landscape was very different back then. I know what you mean as I was forced by my employer to use Linux on the desktop at that time and it was mediocre - but many things changed in the meantime. P…

the hardware thing was not a problem for us as we could dictate which computers were bought. so computers were bought which would be compatible. our problem was: none of the tools we needed were available in the quality and richness as they exist today. automatic deployment to hundred of PCs at the same time with extensive automatic configuration? session and configuration management per user? departments want to use…

Post by Fazel94 » Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 10:42 AM UTC

MarkusWandel wrote: post #173

This is an opportunity to rant about what makes MS Office so hard to be compatible with. It's a mess of ancient and modern features, that mostly, but not always, work as you'd expect them to, but the overall complexity is mind boggling. This is used by normal humans. Who don't want to spend a lifetime getting good at all this complexity, so they muddle around until stuff gets done. And then you end up with a table in…

Post by silisili » Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 1:50 PM UTC

oblio wrote: post #180

sofixa wrote: post #177

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What "enterprise software" is needed at a public administration? Almost all of it is custom ordered, so Linux compatibility can be a part of the requirements. Outlook is a dumpster fire, and there are perfectly fine alternatives. Very few people actually need the full might of Excel, and you can always RemoteApp it to them, and have the rest use Libre Office. Or heck, provide them with actual tooling better fit for t…

> Very few people actually need the full might of Excel How's the groupware situation on Linux? Mail, calendars, adding shared meeting rooms, etc.

Post by greyhair » Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 2:18 PM UTC

eitland wrote: post #264

deknos wrote: post #246

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LOL, damned if you do, damned if you don't > That doesn’t mean you’re free of bias. If anything it means the opposite. Maybe, but at least i know what i talk about. You observe from the outside and talk about "meme-level bad"? do you believe anything BILD and AZ writes? > “Limux worked” and “we solved a whole ton of problems and had to implement printing dialogs, QT interfaces and more” feel like statements somewhat…

> Linux can do something, which windows cannot || : eh, wo cares Exactly. We who have used Linux for a while have had fun a couple of times before asking if Windows is ready for our desktops and the answer was most often a resounding no. Lately I've made do with just Windows and WSL and to be honest, it still isn't ready for my desktop. Recently my laptop had overheated in the bag a number of times. Knowing I would p…

Post by RealStickman_ » Fri, Nov 19, 2021, 3:37 PM UTC

greyhair wrote: post #356

I have used LibreOffice, and it makes me cringe. Has it vastly improved the UI in the last three years? That was the last time I installed it, tried using it for three weeks, then uninstalled it. It was like a bad acid trip version of the 1990s.