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Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by ElliotH »

Kavan wrote: post #76

I have just blogged about this article at FounderandFriends.com. Here is the text from it. Steve Jobs, is someone I admire hugely. Yes, he has numerous personality floors but his obsession to follow his heart in all things in his life is extremely admirable. Watching his Stanford Commencement speech too many times in a job I didn’t enjoy led me to quit as a Derivatives Trader and sent me on my current path, back to t…

I think people would generally appreciate you summarising your post and then perhaps quietly noting you'd blogged on the subject in the bottom line. (Just for future reference)

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by Zak »

enneff wrote: post #36
Zak wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my experience, that's only true of the parts the customer is intended to take apart. The inside of a Mac Pro is beautiful. The inside of a Macbook... not so much.

Are you kidding? You really think there isn't something incredibly beautiful about this? http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Air-13-Inch-Mid-2011-...

Well, once you get past this, which is its very own beautiful flower:

http://www.macnews.de/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/MacBook-Air...

you find some pretty netbook-line innards with a big, flat battery. I've certainly seen laptops with less attractive innards, but the main thing I see when I look inside the MBA is non-replaceable components. I actually had the white plastic Macbook in mind in my original comment. Those have more stuff in them and a lot like a PC laptop with a bit more reinforcement than average.

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by potatolicious »

grammaton wrote: post #60
sskates wrote: post #31

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Jobs WAS perceived as absolutely absurd during his first stint at Apple. It's a big part of why the board kicked him out in 1985. If he didn't have a track record of success on the iPod, iPhone, and iPad, his demanding and aggressive personality wouldn't go over as well. Most people with his type of personality come off as extremely abrasive more than they come off as "genius".

Pull this sort of thing when you're an average executive or middle management, and you're an abrasive, demanding idiot. Pull it when you have a few billion in the bank, and you're a "visionary."

I don't think it's about having billions in the bank.

It's all about being right - a lot. When you're the man who introduced the world's most popular music player ever, followed by a complete revitalization of its flagging computer brand, and then invent a completely new product category that your competitors are breaking their necks trying to catch up to... your demands suddenly become more acceptable.

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by tlrobinson »

mikeash wrote: post #79
tlrobinson wrote: post #25

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Steve Jobs doesn't think so. Have you seen the insides of Apple products? They're as beautiful as the outsides of competitors' products.

Have you seen their source code? Go download the CFLite code and then come back here and tell me that the insides of Apple products are as beautiful as the outsides of competitors' products.

I meant the hardware. I suppose it depends on what Steve could look at and decide whether it was beautiful or not.

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by omfut »

nhashem wrote: post #6

Because it's Steve Jobs, this is a great anecdote. I'm sure we'll hear dozens of them in the next couple days and weeks, all examples of Jobs' attention to detail and design resulting in superior products and software. Yet imagine your boss calling you on a Sunday and saying, "So I was reviewing the DBA's data model for the new product, and I really don't like how he's called the columns with customers identifiers 'c…

I think it shows the passion for the product regardless of what level you get into. The net impact is what we see in iPhone,iPod,iPad etc. It could be argued either way, but the point is that the record speaks for itself. So when u see a product class apart from other competing product, some of these small gestures set things apart.

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by mikeash »

tlrobinson wrote: post #94
mikeash wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you seen their source code? Go download the CFLite code and then come back here and tell me that the insides of Apple products are as beautiful as the outsides of competitors' products.

I meant the hardware. I suppose it depends on what Steve could look at and decide whether it was beautiful or not.

Yeah, but... the whole thread was about whether this icon thing is comparable to excessive nitpicking over a database name.

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by Kavan »

ElliotH wrote: post #91
Kavan wrote: post #76

I have just blogged about this article at FounderandFriends.com. Here is the text from it. Steve Jobs, is someone I admire hugely. Yes, he has numerous personality floors but his obsession to follow his heart in all things in his life is extremely admirable. Watching his Stanford Commencement speech too many times in a job I didn’t enjoy led me to quit as a Derivatives Trader and sent me on my current path, back to t…

I think people would generally appreciate you summarising your post and then perhaps quietly noting you'd blogged on the subject in the bottom line. (Just for future reference)

Got it, thanks Elliot.
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