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Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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> Much of it has to do with the overall instability of electric vehicles in general — especially SUVs

I thought electric vehicles were more 'stable'? Or am I misunderstanding that? They're mostly solid state. What's unstable?

And why are SUVs even less stable?

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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> Much of it has to do with the overall instability of electric vehicles in general — especially SUVs I thought electric vehicles were more 'stable'? Or am I misunderstanding that? They're mostly solid state. What's unstable? And why are SUVs even less stable?

I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following:

o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt)

o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion

o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" window on passenger door

o Worn half shafts caused shudder under acceleration, replaced at ~20k miles

o fogging drivers side A pillar camera after rain, leading to "navigate on autopilot unavailable"

o Drove in "low" mode to preserve half shafts, caused excessive tire wear. Wore inner rear tires down to a puncture around 30k miles. Replaced tires and had car re-aligned to run in "low" mode.

o Half shafts replaced again at 38k miles

o Upper control arms shot around 39k miles, car out of warranty, and Tesla wants $1k to fix.

All in all, I'm thinking to get a different car since I need a car that works. I don't want a non-Tesla EV since the charging options for non-Tesla EVs suck. I'm currently looking at PHEVs.

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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> Much of it has to do with the overall instability of electric vehicles in general — especially SUVs I thought electric vehicles were more 'stable'? Or am I misunderstanding that? They're mostly solid state. What's unstable? And why are SUVs even less stable?

The quoted Reuters piece references reliability, not instability.

"Electric SUVs as a vehicle category is the absolute bottom in terms of reliability," Consumer Reports director of vehicle testing Jake Fisher said Thursday during a presentation to the Detroit Automotive Press Association.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/asia/tesla-electric-suvs-get...

There's no reference at all to instability in the article.

I suspect a transcription error on the part of SFGate and Joshua Bote.

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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post #3

> Much of it has to do with the overall instability of electric vehicles in general — especially SUVs I thought electric vehicles were more 'stable'? Or am I misunderstanding that? They're mostly solid state. What's unstable? And why are SUVs even less stable?

I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following: o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt) o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" wind…

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Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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post #3

> Much of it has to do with the overall instability of electric vehicles in general — especially SUVs I thought electric vehicles were more 'stable'? Or am I misunderstanding that? They're mostly solid state. What's unstable? And why are SUVs even less stable?

I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following: o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt) o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" wind…

I am interested in an itemized total cost of ownership. This sounds like a pretty incredible experience for an electric car. I don't think I paid more than $140 in synthetic oil and filter changes since I purchased my gas only Toyota new 50,000 miles ago and that's my only expense so far besides gas.

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following: o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt) o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" wind…

I am interested in an itemized total cost of ownership. This sounds like a pretty incredible experience for an electric car. I don't think I paid more than $140 in synthetic oil and filter changes since I purchased my gas only Toyota new 50,000 miles ago and that's my only expense so far besides gas.

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Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following: o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt) o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" wind…

I am interested in an itemized total cost of ownership. This sounds like a pretty incredible experience for an electric car. I don't think I paid more than $140 in synthetic oil and filter changes since I purchased my gas only Toyota new 50,000 miles ago and that's my only expense so far besides gas.

It's bizarre that the car is out of warranty already at only four years. Have they driven it 100k miles or something?

Re: Tesla ranks almost dead-last on Consumer Reports reliability list

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post #3

> Much of it has to do with the overall instability of electric vehicles in general — especially SUVs I thought electric vehicles were more 'stable'? Or am I misunderstanding that? They're mostly solid state. What's unstable? And why are SUVs even less stable?

I have a 2017 Model X that I bought new. The EV part is great, its everything else that sucks. Since I've had it, I've taken it for service for the following: o Arrived w/o Tow pkg (Tesla "forgot" it, was installed via service center appt) o falcon wing doors improperly adjusted, leading to wind noise and water intrusion o Loud wind noise and fogging passenger side windows: Due to improperly installed "triangle" wind…

All these seem like mechanical or assembly issues other auto manufacturers have already figured out. Very rarely hear these days about control arms failing with traditional automakers vehicles.
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