They belong in an autoclave.
Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
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Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
Only wild if you assume that everyone has the same likelihood of having proximity to such an event. But people involved in smallpox research have a much increased chance because they have (physical) proximity to the places this can happen and those that find them have (secondary) proximity to those that have higher (physical) proximity. And Gates funds lots of these researchers so he has a very, very high likelihood…
Gates funds a lot of research. Two weeks ago he talked about a smallpox terror attack in the US, and then a couple days ago "smallpox" vials are found. I don't care what his proximity is, it's still a crazy coincidence. And Event 201 was about a global pandemic, put on by the Gates Foundation in October 2019. I don't think I need to point out what happened shortly after that. Again, it's not about proximity but speci…
Oh fuck off. Really. Enough of this bullshit.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#63Maybe we should shutdown all labs studying pathogens until they can figure out how to handle themselves. We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet.
> We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet I'm astonished there are people that think like this on HN
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29269142
Over in the other thread, we're discussing Kasparov admitting that China definitely covered up evidence from their Wuhan lab regardless of whether or not they were actually responsible for a leak.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#64A smallpox pandemic would be orders of magnitude more deadly than COVID. COVID has a very low death rate and is comparable to the flu, whereas Smallpox kills 30% of people it infects and disfigures an even higher percentage. And my understanding is that it is just as contagious (may be wrong on this). Read up on Operation Dark Winter (2001 era wargame of a US smallpox outbreak) for details on how this might play out.…
> A smallpox pandemic would be orders of magnitude more deadly than COVID
Edit: fair enough there’s no vaccinations for smallpox anymore. But countries do still buy stockpiles
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#65Apparently this happened before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox > On July 1, 2014, six sealed glass vials of smallpox dated 1954, along with sample vials of other pathogens, were discovered in a cold storage room in an FDA laboratory at the National Institutes of Health location in Bethesda, Maryland. The smallpox vials were subsequently transferred to the custody of the CDC in Atlanta, where virus taken from…
Deciding to culture the samples, versus just destroying them without analysis, must be accompanied by an interesting risk/benefit analysis.
They were transported to the existing, single approved location for processing these samples before being cultured. So the risk may not have been any more than existing research at that facility.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#66A smallpox pandemic would be orders of magnitude more deadly than COVID. COVID has a very low death rate and is comparable to the flu, whereas Smallpox kills 30% of people it infects and disfigures an even higher percentage. And my understanding is that it is just as contagious (may be wrong on this). Read up on Operation Dark Winter (2001 era wargame of a US smallpox outbreak) for details on how this might play out.…
COVID is not comparable to the flu. It's 3-20x as deadly depending on a variety of factors.
Smallpox would still be significantly more deadly than COVID individually, but I'd bet people would take lockdowns much more seriously for smallpox than they did for COVID, preventing a pandemic and resulting in fewer deaths overall. Especially because people believe falsehoods like "COVID is comparable to the flu" because it downplays the risk.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
> you might get a better reception on Infowars Can you elaborate why you added this part to your comment?
The parent comment was a pretty clumsy dog whistle to paranoid folks who believe Gates to be a sinister puppetmaster who is unleashing pandemic disease on the world. The Infowars audience is very receptive to this unfounded notion. Since the commenter is concerned about the popularity of his posts, I proposed a suitable audience that would be more receptive and would provide the desired positive response.
When labeling commentary as a dog whistle, one needs to be mindful of the possibility they have tinnitus related to said issue.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#68Maybe we should shutdown all labs studying pathogens until they can figure out how to handle themselves. We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet.
> We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet I'm astonished there are people that think like this on HN
It's unfortunate that all of this got politicized, but the fact is that nobody knows for sure where it came from nor does anyone know for sure where it didn't come from.
I would say it's not a waste of time to review what labs are doing all over the world since the stakes are so high.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#69Maybe we should shutdown all labs studying pathogens until they can figure out how to handle themselves. We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet.
> We aren’t even through the current scientist caused pandemic yet I'm astonished there are people that think like this on HN
I'd be d'accord if he said something to the effect of:
> We aren’t even through the current possibly scientist-caused pandemic yet
Peter Daszak should have to testify before Congress, imo.
Re: Vials labeled ‘smallpox’ are found in Pennsylvania laboratory
#70Huh, I got a smallpox vaccine when I was in the military in 2006. I assumed it was still a common thing, but I guess it hasn’t been done for civilians since the 70s? Crazy.
I'm guessing that since that specific job sometimes leads to free foreign travel, it's better to be vaccinated for as many things as possible before deployment happens.
No, it is that smallpox is a good candidate for a bioweapon, so we want to be sure that our soldiers to be protected against any such bioweapon that an adversary might choose to create. (In fact smallpox was historically used as a bioweapon against Native Americans.)
There have been no smallpox cases in decades, so it is not a concern that you might travel somewhere that smallpox is a concern. It would have to be a deliberate attack.
Separately if anyone wonders why smallpox is called smallpox, it is to distinguish it from the great pox, which is better known as syphilis. The comparison is disfiguring scars for smallpox, versus things like your nose falling off with syphilis.