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TheNFTbay.org – The Billion Dollar Torrent (All NFT's from Ethereum and Solana)

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Ignorant question: Can downloading the torrent result in charges of 'digital theft' and given the 'value' of the file result in a felony?

I doubt it. Nobody in the NFT space is ignorant of the fact that copies can be made, an NFT is simply ownership of the original. The more people want copies of something, the more valuable the original would probably be.

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If an NFT just contains a URL, is there anything stopping me from minting a bunch of new NFTs that contain the same URLs as existing NFTs? Is there some sort of uniqueness constraint on the URLs or is it just taken on faith that nobody would ever do that? What if I added some nonsense (like, I dunno, an fbclid) to the URL query string? What if I minted duplicates of all the NFTs on the Ethereum chain on the Solana ch…

There's no such constraint, it would be futile even if there was, you can just copy the image to a different web server and get a different URL. What's going to be interesting to watch is when one of the heavily CDN's used goes down so NFT owners are left with receipts of broken links, even better if a CDN gets hijacked and gets configured to return the same Rick Roll clip for every NFT link.

What are the most popular CDNs used for this crap?

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You have a url that purports to be a certificate of authenticity. What happens to that certificate of authenticity when the site goes down, or gets sold to someone who decides to replace all the images there with poop emojis?

Same for your movie collection. The movie streaming industry is a scam !

If they promise you to own that piece of media, and then later make it unavailable for you, then yeah, that's a scam. DRM, or things like DVD region locking are also quite scammy if you ask me.

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#174

I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

There are some really cool things that can be done with NFTs (concert tickets, in game items that can be cross-game, etc). The most popular use right now is art. The really interesting thing is that NFT art is really close to real world art: both are ridiculously overpriced for something not very unique that is heavily driven by rich characters trying to hide their money. All art is dumb, not just NFTs. NFTs are just more liquid.

Re: TheNFTbay.org – The Billion Dollar Torrent (All NFT's from Ethereum and Solana)

#175

I used to come onto HN and see crypto-coin news and I'd jump into the comments and ask something along the lines of "But isn't bitcoin and all the other things like it just a giant scam?" and someone who believed in Bitcoin to be a transformative technology would jump in and explain the real potential. I personally still think it's sort of a scam, but I'm happy for all of the people who used it to get rich....so, alo…

The real scam is people wasting disk space to screenshot or download those horrors.

Re: TheNFTbay.org – The Billion Dollar Torrent (All NFT's from Ethereum and Solana)

#176

If an NFT just contains a URL, is there anything stopping me from minting a bunch of new NFTs that contain the same URLs as existing NFTs? Is there some sort of uniqueness constraint on the URLs or is it just taken on faith that nobody would ever do that? What if I added some nonsense (like, I dunno, an fbclid) to the URL query string? What if I minted duplicates of all the NFTs on the Ethereum chain on the Solana ch…

The timestamp and signature would disprove your claim, and evidence of your fraud would perpetually exist on the blockchain if someone wanted to hold you accountable.

Sure, if I was foolish enough to do things with a key that could easily linked back to my real identity, and if the buyer was careful enough to check if my reprinted NFT was the "real" one.

Would it be accurate to say that, from another perspective, the counterfeit NFTs I issued would stay on the blockchain in perpetuity, with no on-chain indications (aside, of course, from timestamp and key) of their fraudulent nature, and that they could be resold over and over to defraud additional careless buyers? Is there some sort of registry of fake/fraudulent NFTs or is it all caveat emptor, hope you read the right blogs?

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#177

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If digital art is as valuable and worthy of recognition as physical art, then look at it through lens of the difference in price between the original Mona Lisa and replicas of it.

I absolutely think that digital art is as valuable and worthy of recognition as physical art. My wife is an artist (oils and water colors, not digital) and we've discussed it at length that the skill and talent required to create digital art imparts equal value. I'm not arguing against that (I'm not saying that's what you're saying either, but just to be clear for folks who read the comments). But...I do not see the…

Yes. People will spend millions of dollars on this because belonging to a community is about the most meaningful experience we can have. People will dedicate themselves to that sense of being. See football clubs, churches, political parties, chess clubs… We spend our lives on computers, digital artefacts and communities will come to be the most expensive items ever.

This has been coming a long time. I have about 3000 hours in guild wars 2, when I log in I’m always so happy I have my legendary longbow. If they’d have been nfts that would be amazing. I’d love for that metadata to travel with me across other digital worlds.

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Until the artist needs money, and “mints” more NFTs for the same URL.

Timestamp shows which one came first.

So? That doesn't make the following ones invalid. At best, it's like a numbered print.

The point is, there's no scarcity built in to an NFT. Scarcity builds far more value than a position in line.

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No, that's not it. A scam implies that it's deliberate deception. People being hurt is neither here nor there. And obviously people ARE getting hurt, but that doesn't mean it's a scam. It's just a crazy bubble.

I would say being deceived is also getting hurt…

Yes, a scam hurts people, but not everything that hurts people is a scam!

Re: TheNFTbay.org – The Billion Dollar Torrent (All NFT's from Ethereum and Solana)

#180

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The blockchain tells you that you "own" whatever was at the URL at the point of time that it was written onto the chain. There is no continuing or on-going guarantee that the content at the URL won't change after that. If there is no content hash in the receipt and the original URL is now defunct, how do you prove authenticity?

One way would be to store a hash of the content at that URL with the NFT, but there's actually a better way. IPFS supports the concept of immutability [1], so you could just use an IPFS URL with a content identifier. It also allows for revisions linked to the original content identifier. [1] https://docs.ipfs.io/concepts/immutability/

While this coincidentally works for IPFS CIDs, it's not clear why hashes wouldn't be first-class fields in the NFT itself.
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