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Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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post #24

I'm more of the opinion that if you're sharing something, especially in a blog, then you should never add a comment section. People don't comment unless they have a point that they want to put across, which in 99% of the cases will be something negative. Just look at HN and (ugh) Twitter -- almost every discussion revolves around people trying to find things to complain about. I instead share a contact e-mail. This w…

>Just look at HN Well no offense but what are you doing here if you think that the comments are so bad? I quite disagree, hn comment threads are generally quite good quality and civil, and you will find knowledgeable people chiming in. >almost every discussion revolves around people trying to find things to complain about Quite meta x)) Also: here is a blog which definitely wouldn't be the same without comments https…

> what are you doing here if you think that the comments are so bad

I actually wonder this a lot, strange behavior isn't it? lol

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

#33

I'm more of the opinion that if you're sharing something, especially in a blog, then you should never add a comment section. People don't comment unless they have a point that they want to put across, which in 99% of the cases will be something negative. Just look at HN and (ugh) Twitter -- almost every discussion revolves around people trying to find things to complain about. I instead share a contact e-mail. This w…

I totally agree and in my haste wrote the exact same comment. Ie, don't have a comments section!

I think slowing down the speed at which a person can respond will greatly decrease low value content. And probably be better for everyone involved.

An example, my local paper is trash. Yet, to comment online I have to register and subscribe and .... it's hard, so I just don't. I don't comment, or read that paper anymore.

Which is a somewhat bad example, because I'm not consuming the content. However if something is low quality or I disagree with it, or agree even, I need to pair action with my reaction. I'm pretty busy these days. So to complain or compliment It needs to be good.

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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I'm in this situation: - I want to start blogging - I don't want to blog if I won't get any feedback on what people like to read - I don't want to admin / moderate comments because it sounds like work - I could rely on Reddit / HN threads, but that means I don't get comment threads until I reach a critical mass of popularity. Faster Than Lime will reach the front page every time, but I won't be putting in his level o…

Maybe leave an email address for people to contact you? Otherwise you pretty much have to do moderation. Good thing is for a small blog there likely won't be very much!

> Good thing is for a small blog there likely won't be very much!

Spam is a large problem on any scale. Unless you use something that filter bots, the size of your blog doesn't matter much.

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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post #3

On the "no comments" option: > However, you won't be able to build a community with people interacting with one another. I think that building a community and writing articles are different skill sets. Some very successful bloggers ("influencers" in modern slang) are able to do both but that's not the norm for most individuals. Sure, it's fine when you're small and it's just a few people with similar interests. But o…

"influencer" is not a fancy word for a blogger. An influencer is an advertiser posing as a blogger. The broader term is "native advertising" - advertisements designed not to look like advertisements.

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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Could it be that your site topics draw in negative folks? Some topics can evoke emotional feedback. In that case you might consider EchoChamber [1] javascript that stores comments in the browser. This is not my project. When a user submits a comment, echochamber.js will save the comment to the user's LocalStorage, so when they return to the page, they can be confident that their voice is being heard, and feel engaged…

Very poorly named though - one person does not an echo chamber make. They should have named it shadow-banned, because that is what it is doing.

Haha, it should use ML to generate responses that align with the posters comment xD

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

#37

I'm more of the opinion that if you're sharing something, especially in a blog, then you should never add a comment section. People don't comment unless they have a point that they want to put across, which in 99% of the cases will be something negative. Just look at HN and (ugh) Twitter -- almost every discussion revolves around people trying to find things to complain about. I instead share a contact e-mail. This w…

Maybe it depends on the topic a blog is about or something else but I have a small blog about photography ( https://50mmf2.com ) and I've had only one slightly negative comment.

My blog isn't getting much traffic or many comments though. I would imagine that as something gets more popular it attracts more negative attention. That being said, the more popular niche photography blogs ( mainly about film photography ) have largely positive comments as well.

Promoting just an email will yield a much lower communication rate. Which might be OK in some cases but it's also nice to receive comments. As long as they are not terrible...

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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@author.

Is there anyway you could put this in a github repo? Or would you give me permission to copy and paste it?

I spent an entire morning earlier this week, researching all the different options and the pros/cons of static site commenting, just with google, and discovered this post today and it's way more complete than all of my research. haha

This could be a real nice resource for people.

Great post.

Re: Various ways to include comments on a static site (2018)

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@author. Is there anyway you could put this in a github repo? Or would you give me permission to copy and paste it? I spent an entire morning earlier this week, researching all the different options and the pros/cons of static site commenting, just with google, and discovered this post today and it's way more complete than all of my research. haha This could be a real nice resource for people. Great post.

> Is there anyway you could put this in a github repo? Or would you give me permission to copy and paste it?

I once handled such resources in separate repositories (e.g. "best practices", "accessibility notes"), but I've decided to put them under my blog instead. Less maintenance, single place for all my projects.

But it's totally fine if you want to maintain such a list yourself! If you don't copy my blog post exactly and maybe include a back link, feel free to do so. (if you do, please share a link, so I can subscribe to changes)

> I spent an entire morning earlier this week, researching all the different options and the pros/cons of static site commenting, just with google, and discovered this post today and it's way more complete than all of my research.

Thanks! I think the reason is that I wrote this post in 2018 and update it every time I find something new. I've setup HN email notifications for some related keywords (like "Disqus") to learn about new tools and add them to my post.

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