You know, I'll admit that this is ignorance on my end, but I honestly thought that Streamlabs was the owner of OBS, in that OBS was just an internal project that they open sourced. Clearly I'm wrong but I doubt I'm the only person who thought that. Seems like they're being douchebags if they're just taking the offensive and filing predatory trademarks.
You absolutely aren't the only person to think that. The OBS Discord gets a lot of people wandering in for SLOBS help, and a lot of them get mad when people there aren't inclined to.
Putting her money where her mouth is. And Pokimane does have some pull in the streaming community, so this could hurt Streamlabs quite a bit financially
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Streamlabs is set up in a way that it's super easy to sign up for their pro thing by accident while donating to a streamer.
Their business model is "refund the complaints"
Considering Pokimane went out of her way to upper-cap donations to a fiver I doubt she's concerned with losing money from this
Arguably the biggest Twitch streamer and the face of Twitch used in a lot of ads and promos. Also a Streamlabs partner, so good for her to call them out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokimane
> Arguably the biggest Twitch streamer This person is #39 on this list [1] which shows earnings from ~2 years up till Oct 2021. She is arguably a top100 streamer, but I wouldn't use these heavy wordings of 'biggest Twitch streamer' cause I am sure there's going to be fans of various of these top100 personae who claim such. [1] https://twitch.pages.dev/
She's the 8th most followed Twitch streamer, and the most followed female Twitch streamer [1].
She doesn't score as high in most other metrics, so there are certainly more channels with a claim to "biggest (female) Twitch streamer" depending on how you look at it.
It’s not that easy, it only takes a few overzealous lawyers to end up with the drama we had with Firefox and Iceweazel. The point of open source is that you can modify it. But can you modify it and still call it the same name? If so, how much can you modify it?
Plenty of open source license recognize this, e.g. from the zlib license: > 2. Altered source versions must be plainly marked as such, and must not be misrepresented as being the original software.
True! But what does ‘altered’ mean? And what does ‘not be misrepresented’ mean?
If I patch the Linux kernel and compile it, can I call it the Linux kernel?
If Streamlabs patches OBS, can they call it Streamlabs OBS?
You meant the company that doesn't have a website other than to complain someone is using their name? I don't buy into the meta.company claims at all with the "evidence" provided. I laughed at this this when it first appeared, and continue laughing at it now
I did too. There is no way Facebook didn't have the name 100% secured before announcing. This is just another example of journalists not doing their due diligence and Twitter being dumb.
I don't know anything about journalists or Twitter in this case specifically, but I agree flat out Twitter is dumb.
I only know of the meta.company claim from a post made here on HN. I'm guessing it was somebody realizing that FB didn't claim all of the TLDs and trolled them about it. So I laugh at it because of that being a possibility as much as if it is a serious anything I laugh at how laughable their attempt at whatever they are attempting is.
> Arguably the biggest Twitch streamer This person is #39 on this list [1] which shows earnings from ~2 years up till Oct 2021. She is arguably a top100 streamer, but I wouldn't use these heavy wordings of 'biggest Twitch streamer' cause I am sure there's going to be fans of various of these top100 personae who claim such. [1] https://twitch.pages.dev/
That's because she famously limited donations.
The numbers on the list only include Twitch related payments (subscribers, ad deployments and "bits"), so donations are not included in any way.
If this is true, the detail that sticks out to me is that before the legal filings StreamLabs thought to reach out about using the name. If StreamLabs thought the names were similar enough that they reached out about using the name, that proves that even from their own former perspective, they're using a mark that was already recognized in the industry and similar enough to their own mark - surely consumers could hav…
You meant the company that doesn't have a website other than to complain someone is using their name? I don't buy into the meta.company claims at all with the "evidence" provided. I laughed at this this when it first appeared, and continue laughing at it now
Yes I chose my use of "apparently" and "if this is true" carefully. There is another widely reported instance, better known as Meta PC, filing before Facebook for the mark "Meta", covering "Computers, laptops and portable computers, tablets, computer peripherals, servers, networking equipment, software, computer components, namely, ram, disk drives, namely, hard and optical disk drives, and all related accessories, namely, keyboards, mice, wireless keyboards and mice, speakers, external hard drive backup devices, wireless air cards, wireless routers, monitors, chairs". This is indeed live on the USPTO search right now. That to me sounds like a potential problem.
It's the solution to the "Unregistered HyperCam 2" problem. In simplified words, it's a screen recording software that also lets you stream to twitch and other streaming portals. In practice it does way more than that though.
that's like saying Word lets you create a text document, but in practice it does way more than that though.
that's like saying Word lets you create a text document, but in practice it does way more than that though.
..which is true?
maybe, but if you asked me "What is Word", and I replied "you can make a text document with it" would be not a very useful answer.
Sadly, most people just scratch the surface of what OBS can really do. If you really want to dig in to it, it is has the capabilities of a TV Broadcasting Studio for the financially constrained yet fanatically devoted to the cause level of features. I have used it in place of a TriCaster. I find myself constantly amazed at the things that can be achieved with this software to the point that I shake my head and think this shouldn't be possible. And then grin as other people think it was done in a studio.
You meant the company that doesn't have a website other than to complain someone is using their name? I don't buy into the meta.company claims at all with the "evidence" provided. I laughed at this this when it first appeared, and continue laughing at it now
Yes I chose my use of "apparently" and "if this is true" carefully. There is another widely reported instance, better known as Meta PC, filing before Facebook for the mark "Meta", covering "Computers, laptops and portable computers, tablets, computer peripherals, servers, networking equipment, software, computer components, namely, ram, disk drives, namely, hard and optical disk drives, and all related accessories, n…
Not if you have Zuck's Fuck You money financing the cause. Your potential problem just became billable hours for the Army of the Damned-Lawyers.
What? You don't have any more money to keep playing? Please insert $0.25 to continue. No? So sorry, so long, what was yours is now mine, thus it ever was.