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Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by groovecoder »

akdor1154 wrote: post #37

Urgh, on one hand i love the idea and i think its a good business venture for mozilla. On the other hand, they are injecting little scare bubbles into everybody's website to advertise this, and that rubs me up the wrong way so much i want nothing to do with it.

Howdy. I'm an engineer on both Facebook Container and Relay.

We fixed the original bug in Facebook Container that was showing the prompt on every website - now it only shows the prompt on websites where Facebook trackers are detected.

Facebook Container is something that inspired and influenced the development of Relay in the first place. Facebook Container users reported that they used websites and still saw ads from those websites in their Facebook feed, even though they were using Facebook Container. Because Facebook lets anyone create custom audiences for re-targeting, we need to give users a way to protect themselves from "back end" data sharing & tracking.

(https://www.facebook.com/business/help/744354708981227?id=24...)

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by mattlondon »

the_duke wrote: post #26

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

Similar here.

Instead of using the same email address and different password per site, I use my "burner" domain so foo.com@burner and just use the same password for everything. Nothing to remember for a login - just the domain name and the usual password.

For "important" things (anything with money or PII etc) I use a unique password + bitwarden

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by AbuAssar »

Mozilla, I want to give you money and subscribe, Yet you refuse with this ambiguit error:

The currency of this subscription is not valid for the country associated with your payment.

Try again

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by the8472 »

e12e wrote: post #102
the8472 wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thunderbird supports custom From: addresses in the mail compose window.

But, your mail might bounce without proper sfp setup. (preventing random from like in the good old days (president@whitehouse.gov) is pretty much the raison d'être for sfp... For better or worse).

That's not relevant for the discussion in this thread where we already assume you have a custom domain with catchall inbox setup. The custom From is still needed to be able to actually send from any address on that domain.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by vxNsr »

rpxio wrote: post #93

I've been using Spamgourmet for over a decade for this functionality. I'm surprised it's not more popular here. https://spamgourmet.com

Never heard of this one. I'd love to get something like this that I can self-host, or pay to use my own domain.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by vxNsr »

havkd wrote: post #74

Why not just create a burner Gmail address?

how does that work? Then you need to still sift through all the spam you get... this allows you to prevent the spam from ever arriving.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by greenail »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #49
the_duke wrote: post #26

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

Word of advice for anybody doing this: make sure you have a way to SEND email using one of your aliased addresses - because one day you will find a critical service provider can't process your emailed attachments unless sent from your registered email address (e.g. insurance claim document, bank documents, etc.)

you can make unique addresses so they can be transparently replied to in any mail reader (including gmail/web). It takes a bit of work but is worth it. I've been using the system I built to do it for over 5 years.

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by e12e »

j1elo wrote: post #57

Relay is very cool but it took me like 24 hours since discovering and adopting it, to being unable to use it for an account. So I cannot recommend it to my family and friends who are much less tech literate than I am. In my case I was trying to create an account on the Linux Mint Forums [1]. The confirmation email never arrived, which was very confusing to me. [1]: https://forums.linuxmint.com/ After a couple emails…

So.. Relay require tls on incoming connections - but site sends confirmation link over plain text smtp? What site refuses to upgrade to tls these days? (or am I reading that wrong?)

Re: Firefox Relay

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Post by Barrin92 »

nagyf wrote: post #73

What happens when the service is discontinued, and suddenly I won't receive any emails from potentially hundreds of accounts? Seems like a really bad idea to rely on this service.

the primary use case for me is to generate throwaway registration emails, I wouldn't necessarily use this for anything you really depend on.
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