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I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by intpx »

yessirwhatever wrote: post #92
rym_ wrote: post #7

I get so frustrated with the idiotic thumbnails on youtube video these days. I am sure it's all optimized for the maximum number of clicks/views but if I see a still that looks the way it does at the bottom of this page I generally just don't watch it on principle.

I came into the comments just to say exactly that. What’s worse is that OP is aware and admits it’s stupid, yet continues to engage in this shady, annoying, and extremely stupid tactic. I don’t click on crap videos and content like that on principle. Interesting or not.

That's an awfully short hill to die on.

Youtube is gamified. Jeff doesn't play the game, he doesn't get the views. If he doesn't get the views, he doesn't get the sponsorships. If he doesn't get the sponsorships, he goes back to being a just another devops engineer who doesn't make the thing no one else will ever make.

I get it, the face is the worst. But until youtube fixes its algorithm (i dunno, to de-prioritize videos with 'the face') the Jeff's have to do the face to get the views to get the algorithmic advantage to get the views to get the sponsors to make the making worth the making.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by intpx »

AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #114
_zoltan_ wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do not kid myself, I said nowhere he is altruistic. I'd do the same thing if I were him - increase my income. If somebody tells me now that I get a 20-30% salary bump right now and I need to make a silly face once a day I ask back: where do I sign?

Precisely my point. Where would you personally draw the line? Would you invent a new kind of unstoppable popup ad? Unbreakable DRM? Would you implement an overly complicated and error prone gym membership cancellation procedure? You can easily justify all that to yourself for selfish reasons. That does not mean that I have to think it is ok.

yea, i totally agree with everything you are saying except that making a silly face in a thumbnail does not carry the same ethical weight (or really any at all) as unbreakable DRM or malicious pop-ups or uncancellable subscriptions. So i guess, in conclusion, i don't agree with you at all and i think your argument is complete horseshit. cheers!

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by loudmax »

yessirwhatever wrote: post #92
rym_ wrote: post #7

I get so frustrated with the idiotic thumbnails on youtube video these days. I am sure it's all optimized for the maximum number of clicks/views but if I see a still that looks the way it does at the bottom of this page I generally just don't watch it on principle.

I came into the comments just to say exactly that. What’s worse is that OP is aware and admits it’s stupid, yet continues to engage in this shady, annoying, and extremely stupid tactic. I don’t click on crap videos and content like that on principle. Interesting or not.

I don't know what Jeff Geerling's income is, but I'm pretty sure he's a full time Youtuber at this point. He doesn't like the stupid thumbnails either, but generating Youtube views is pretty much his job. Maybe there's some kind of long term strategy where refraining from stupid thumbnails curates a more intelligent audience, but if your livelihood depends on audience size, that's a big risk to take. In fact I hope it works out that way, but until that's a proven strategy I can't fault geerlingguy for the stupid thumbnails.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by rasz »

_zoltan_ wrote: post #107
hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I’m looking forward to the day that I can retire my spinning-disk NAS, but at $700 per 8TB SSD I think it’s going to be a while before they’re cheap enough that I want to take that leap. It's not just the price - SSDs are not a good choice for long-term storage, especially if they're not powered up continuously.

I've heard about the same thing, but I have yet to see evidence of this. I have an old SSD on the shelf that I may be power up every 1.5 years or so, and so far, it works fine. It's around 8 years old.

8 year old SSD was manufactured on huge (by todays standards) lithography, and was most likely MLC.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by yessirwhatever »

intpx wrote: post #161
yessirwhatever wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came into the comments just to say exactly that. What’s worse is that OP is aware and admits it’s stupid, yet continues to engage in this shady, annoying, and extremely stupid tactic. I don’t click on crap videos and content like that on principle. Interesting or not.

That's an awfully short hill to die on. Youtube is gamified. Jeff doesn't play the game, he doesn't get the views. If he doesn't get the views, he doesn't get the sponsorships. If he doesn't get the sponsorships, he goes back to being a just another devops engineer who doesn't make the thing no one else will ever make. I get it, the face is the worst. But until youtube fixes its algorithm (i dunno, to de-prioritize v…

I understand where you're coming from, but you're talking as if this "Jeff" is a machine and not a person. He's a real human who can think and make decisions regardless of what this "algorithm" could potentially dictate. This prioritization of the "face" is all speculation at the end of the day, and until the "Jeff"s of Youtube stop acting like machines and start acting like thinking-individuals who don't think that the end justify the means, the stupid face will take over, and this is what I and others are criticizing.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by rasz »

Aeolun wrote: post #38
nzach wrote: post #9

I was the only one expecting to see a cluster with 100+ units?

Nope, that was what caused me to click. If someone told me they stuck 4 $1000 disks in a PI I wouldn’t have bothered :/

not even with a stupid face on a thumbnail? cmon its so clickable!!1

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by skrbjc »

dark-star wrote: post #126
WastingMyTime89 wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The question not being asked is how your audience changes A vs B in other ways than size. That's not how it works. The most important factor to get views on YouTube is the recommendation algorithm. It makes a huge difference. YouTube will not even push your videos to people who are subscribed to you if the recommendation algorithm doesn't favor them. As the click-through rate is an important part of how the algorit…

Youtube algorithms are truly weird. I have a YT account with, I think, 3 or 4 subscribers and maybe a dozen or two views on the 10-20 videos I ever uploaded. I basically use YT to upload things that I want to share with some close friends. Then, earlier this year, one of my videos suddenly skyrocketed[1]. It was an old video, 10 years or so, and it only consisted of one 10 second scene of a movie that I found funny a…

*couldn't care less

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by JeremyNT »

Nextgrid wrote: post #123
JKCalhoun wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing what a Raspberry Pi can do still has me clicking through.

I mean, it could always do that. You can connect a ton of drives over USB (I think the device limit is 127). The question when it comes to RPi-powered NASes is whether it can do that well and the answer is as everyone expected: not really; the CPU is the bottleneck regardless of the underlying interface the drives connect over.

These sorts of articles come up a lot on HN, where it's "I did with a Raspberry Pi!"

There's an odd fascination with this specific brand of hardware that I can never totally wrap my mind around. I guess it's probably an easy way for people to try out a Linux based computer with a minimal expenditure, and a launching point for new users to start trying things out. Of course, it's not like RPi has a monopoly on little low powered Linux computers either - there are plenty of alternatives even in that niche (e.g. from Pine64).

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by goohle »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #155
goohle wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is how IQ is defined.

No, it is not. 68.2% of the population is in the average span of 85-115 IQ. 15.9% is in the below-average span of 0-85.

> No, it is not. 68.2% of the population is in the average span of 85-115 IQ.

Yep, 50% of them are below 100 IQ, 50% are above 100 IQ.

Official definition of IQ: measure average IQ of a population, then label the point where 50% of population is below average as 100 IQ points.

Re: I built a $5k Raspberry Pi server (yes, it's ridiculous)

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Post by [deleted] »

loudmax wrote: post #163
yessirwhatever wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came into the comments just to say exactly that. What’s worse is that OP is aware and admits it’s stupid, yet continues to engage in this shady, annoying, and extremely stupid tactic. I don’t click on crap videos and content like that on principle. Interesting or not.

I don't know what Jeff Geerling's income is, but I'm pretty sure he's a full time Youtuber at this point. He doesn't like the stupid thumbnails either, but generating Youtube views is pretty much his job. Maybe there's some kind of long term strategy where refraining from stupid thumbnails curates a more intelligent audience, but if your livelihood depends on audience size, that's a big risk to take. In fact I hope i…

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