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Re: Firefox Relay

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a standard and every semi-smart spammer can strip the "\+.+" part so it works only with legit websites that you want to handle in a special way.

Fastmail has subdomain addressing [0] to solve that. whateveryoulike@username.domain.tld is the same as username+whateveryoulike@domain.tld [0]: https://www.fastmail.help/hc/en-us/articles/360060591053-Plu...

So, spammers will learn to look at the "domain.tld" at one moment if this gets popular.

Re: Firefox Relay

#54

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

Word of advice for anybody doing this: make sure you have a way to SEND email using one of your aliased addresses - because one day you will find a critical service provider can't process your emailed attachments unless sent from your registered email address (e.g. insurance claim document, bank documents, etc.)

If it's handled by Google Workspace, it's easy to add additional "Send as" addresses.

Re: Firefox Relay

#55

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

This is very similar to how I setup my (paid) Fastmail email with my own domain. But Fastmail goes one step further: When signing up for things I use an email address like: shopping.newegg@depingus.mydomain.com. Fastmail will automatically deliver any messages addressed to the above email into the Shopping folder of my Inbox. I don't have to create an alias or any rules in my email account. Fastmail will handle that when a message arrives.

This is great for categorizing messages. And you can still blacklist aliases that have been leaked to abusers.

Re: Firefox Relay

#56
post #25

I'm conflicted about this. For me, the best implementation of private alias is the Apple one: %randomwords%[at]icloud.com. It's way harder to wildcard block [at]icloud.com, as there are legit users of the icloud domain, than a wildcard block for: [at]mozmail.com. Unfortunately, using the apple implementation is just one more stone into their walled garden. I really wish firefox could create a legit free [at]firefox (…

> They bought Pocket (which I loved) and now it's on life support. I've been waiting a long time to find someone who thought that Pocket was a good idea. Can you expand on what you like about it being integrated into firefox natively as opposed to an extension?

> Can you expand on what you like about it being integrated into firefox natively as opposed to an extension?

Nowhere in my post I’ve said that I thought it was a good idea to integrate pocket to Firefox natively. I said that I loved pocket as a service. A service that improved constantly before Mozilla acquired it and now it seems like there’s no significant upgrade for the last however many years Mozilla acquired it.

As an addendum, I absolutely do not think that integrating pocket to Firefox was a good idea. Even though I love(d) pocket and Firefox, it should be an extension.

Re: Firefox Relay

#57
Relay is very cool but it took me like 24 hours since discovering and adopting it, to being unable to use it for an account. So I cannot recommend it to my family and friends who are much less tech literate than I am.

In my case I was trying to create an account on the Linux Mint Forums [1]. The confirmation email never arrived, which was very confusing to me.

[1]: https://forums.linuxmint.com/

After a couple emails with the admin, they told me this:

> The forum tried sending you the activation email but it'd rejected by the Firefox relay with this message:

    : host
        inbound-smtp.us-west-2.amazonaws.com[54.240.252.212] said: 550 5.7.1 TLS
        required by recipient (in reply to RCPT TO command)
> This is a known issue of the Firefox relay: https://github.com/mozilla/fx-private-relay/issues/757. I'll check but I think TLS is not under our control, same as in the linked issue.

> For now I think you'll have to use a different email address.

So while it looked promising, sadly the next day I was already back to using gmail addresses...

Re: Firefox Relay

#58

I've been using this pattern for years. I have a custom domain just for signups, and I sign up with [service].[username]@customdomain. The domain simply has a catchall email "accounts@customdomain" Combined with a password manager (Bitwarden) this is absolutely brilliant. * Spam: if I get any spam, I know exactly which company is responsible, whether directly, through selling user data or because of breaches. And I c…

Word of advice for anybody doing this: make sure you have a way to SEND email using one of your aliased addresses - because one day you will find a critical service provider can't process your emailed attachments unless sent from your registered email address (e.g. insurance claim document, bank documents, etc.)

I do what OP does and your comment gave my cause for concern. I just checked with my email provider and, luckily, it seems I can create Send Identities to solve this issue. Thanks for bringing this to my attention though!

Re: Firefox Relay

#59
post #57

Relay is very cool but it took me like 24 hours since discovering and adopting it, to being unable to use it for an account. So I cannot recommend it to my family and friends who are much less tech literate than I am. In my case I was trying to create an account on the Linux Mint Forums [1]. The confirmation email never arrived, which was very confusing to me. [1]: https://forums.linuxmint.com/ After a couple emails…

> So while it looked promising, sadly the next day I was already back to using gmail addresses

I know this pain point well. Some sites, instead of using a blacklist of every single disposable e-mail service, just use a whitelist of 'popular' email domains like gmail.com, outlook.com, yahoo.com etc

This is why I have accounts with gmail and other popular e-mail providers. That's the only reason. Sad that you have to conform to be a normie just to use a website. Thank all the bots and bad faith actors for that...

Re: Firefox Relay

#60
I created a subdomain, and create email on fly based on the domain name example ycombinator@subdomain.com

I use https://improvmx.com/ to forward all subdomain email to my main email (gmail) account. It has a option to forward emails to a black hole too.

From that I have learned that big companies like adobe & lendingtree gets hacked too. Or they sell your data.

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