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Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by artificialLimbs »

manpagereader wrote: post #94

Office 2000 was much better software than anything that came afterward. Even Works '98 was far superior. Frankly though, allowing office workers to putter around with fonts, spacing, and the like is a waste of their time. Plain text should be enforced in inter-office communications and anything which needs to be sent out should also be composed as plain text and formatted with TeX into a unified corporate style.

In official Microsoft Teams training, you will learn how to include funny gifs in your messages and change background colors to make messages ‘stand out’. Apparently we are teenagers talking with our bffs and not a business.

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by zz865 »

okeuro49 wrote: post #78
jl6 wrote: post #56

Oh for the simplicity and consistency of Office 2000. I now live in the hell that is Office+SharePoint+Teams, where features churn at random intervals and nobody knows where anything is really stored. This is a real thing that happens to me regularly: Someone sends me an email with a spreadsheet attached. Except it’s not an attachment, even though it looks like one. Needless to say I can’t access it until I’m online.…

On the other hand, when Office 2000 was popular, the popular alternative was quarterly_sales_figures_final_v2_2002_Q2_3_final_v3.xls

until its amended then becomes new_quarterly_sales_figures_final_v2_2002_Q2_3_final_v3.xls

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by vb6sp6 »

CmdrKrool wrote: post #101
vb6sp6 wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Globalization happened English "250 views" = 8 chars wide German "250 mal angesehen" = 17 chars wide English "FAQ" = 3 chars wide Portuguese "Perguntas freqüentes" = 20 characters wide It isn't uncommon for english words to expand 200-300% when translated to other languages. I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels

> I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels https://aware7.de/wp-content/uploads/Netscape_4.png Doesn't look like a showstopper, at least for the specific toolbar icons that Netscape had.

nice find! There are a few English bits on there: guide, stop, shop. Wonder why

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by swiley »

jl6 wrote: post #56

Oh for the simplicity and consistency of Office 2000. I now live in the hell that is Office+SharePoint+Teams, where features churn at random intervals and nobody knows where anything is really stored. This is a real thing that happens to me regularly: Someone sends me an email with a spreadsheet attached. Except it’s not an attachment, even though it looks like one. Needless to say I can’t access it until I’m online.…

Emacs is more user friendly than Office.

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by faqfaq »

vb6sp6 wrote: post #77
SubiculumCode wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine that abbreviations are common in these languages?

It really depends on the phrase. FAQ was just used as an extreme example.

The French made up a translation to fit the acronym.

FAQ = “Foire aux questions”, where “foire” is the French word for a fair, a place where you go to see many things (in this case, questions).

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by akoster »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #53
spaetzleesser wrote: post #8

I believe some around 2000 Office and Windows reached their peaks of usability. They seemed to designed to get stuff done. Since then it seems they crammed more and more "intelligent" functions into the software that made them less predictable. I still don't know under what circumstances Windows Search finds things sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. Lately Outlook search feels random. Teams search is a complete mess…

I'd say 2003 is the last best version. It's the last version without ribbon and it is able to support OOXML with an addon. The UI experiments like partially hidden menus are all disableable if you don't want them.

I concur except conveniently the Office 2007 compatibility pack is fully compatible with Office 2000. Microsoft took their page down but here is a mirror at download.com [1] and from this Stack Exchangw thread [2]

[1] https://download.cnet.com/Microsoft-Office-Compatibility-Pac...

[2] https://superuser.com/questions/404902/microsoft-office-comp...

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by dehrmann »

Arrath wrote: post #48
causality0 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saving things to our disk is also an ordeal because they are pushing OneDrive. Christ don't remind me. The galaxy-brains at my work decided every file on every PC needs to go into OneDrive on a constant-update basis. Between the fact we're still stuck using HDDs instead of SSDs and our network hitting 16 megabits per second on a good day, most people have managed to get an impressive amount of reading done while wait…

We were recently notified that external USB storage will soon be banned, and to use OneDrive to transfer files. My question to IT of "Hey we have clients that explicitly only allow the use of their own (incredibly terrible) file transfer platform, and block OneDrive. We've been burning stuff to CD with a usb drive and hand delivering it, if you ban those wat do?" Got the form "this is how you use OneDrive" response b…

> We were recently notified that external USB storage will soon be banned

With how often USB drives with PII get lost, this is probably a good idea. I'd prefer Dropbox over OneDrive, though.

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by dehrmann »

MatthiasWandel wrote: post #11

Still using office 2000. its simple and fast, never liked the later bells and whistles like the "ribbon". Sadly, windows 10 doesn't get along with it perfectly well.

So many people here saying they miss Office 2000 when it runs perfectly fine on Windows 10.

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by eitland »

johnebgd wrote: post #127
GekkePrutser wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But apparently it is stored on Sharepoint? Or is it OneDrive? And Teams is actually Sharepoint behind the scenes anyway? Yep it is and in fact so is OneDrive itself. So in the end everything is stored in SharePoint. Somewhere. Somehow. SharePoint isn't exactly good at finding stuff however so it's all there somewhere but doubt you'll ever find it back in SharePoint proper. Totally agree with your post by the way. O…

Sharepoint is misery.

I've given up on reporting it so here you get another for free: if you use the information protection feature in SharePoint, be sure to test it extremely carefully.

We evaluated it for a project two years ago and what we luckily realized before putting it into production was that there was a simple and straightforward way for an end user to download unencrypted versions of all the files they had access to, and no way to prevent it that we or the local Microsoft team could find.

(This was before the pandemic and might have been fixed now but it was so bad I figured it is worth mentioning. It was trivially easy once you know about it, something about how you logged in, but there was nothing to warn admins about it.)

Re: Office 2000 is good to go

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Post by vurpo »

vb6sp6 wrote: post #133
CmdrKrool wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'd love to see a german, italian, or portuguese version of netscape to see how they fit those labels https://aware7.de/wp-content/uploads/Netscape_4.png Doesn't look like a showstopper, at least for the specific toolbar icons that Netscape had.

nice find! There are a few English bits on there: guide, stop, shop. Wonder why

"Guide" and "stop" are not only English words, but present in lots of European languages. "Shop" is a common loanword from English in lots of these European languages.
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