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Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by iainctduncan »

curmudgeon22 wrote: post #261
iainctduncan wrote: post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is complete bullshit. EVERYONE is affected. Honestly, just read the BC news. If they think they aren't affected, then they don't understand BC supply chains and haven't noticed... yet.

I'm in Burnaby. It was really rainy and windy for a couple days, but I haven't been meaningfully impacted so far. For sure it was a major storm with some major impacts, but I think most people in the lower mainland weren't severely impacted.

I guess they haven't read yet on how damaged the supply chain is going to be then. This is not "we'll fix it up in a few weeks" road damage, it's more like major shipping roads in BC are going to be affected for through the worst of the winter here.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by iainctduncan »

robotresearcher wrote: post #274
iainctduncan wrote: post #253

It is disappointing to see some people thinking this is not a big deal. Please don't spread that kind of misinformation. We had multiple highways closed over southern BC, many roads down, power outages, municipalities evacuated, and tons of homes flooded in towns and cities all over southern BC. This is affecting a hell of a lot more than whether we can get to the rest of the country by road. There is almost no one w…

It's only a handful of months since we were hearing about unprecedented 45C+ temperatures and towns burning down in minutes edit: looked it up: peak of 49.6°C (121°F) June 29 2021, Lytton, BC. That's Death Valley/Saudi Arabia temps, in a place full of trees on a major river, above 50°N.

Seriously. It hit nearly 50 and then Lytton BURNED DOWN. And now Merritt is IN A RIVER. Frankly, it's terrifying for people here with any scientific literacy.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by cf100clunk »

iainctduncan wrote: post #269

Here's an article that gives people a better sense of how severe this is. I have lived in Southern BC for 40 years and cannot remember there ever being so many simultaneously affected areas from rain. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-floods-tu... And one on the supply chain effects: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bc-floods-rail-impact-1.625... Some folks in Vancouver are saying they are unaffected…

Also the Black Press and Glacier Media chains of local BC papers (i.e. Burnaby Now, Chilliwack Progress, Tri-Cities News, etc.) are carrying a great deal of coverage of the impact on their local areas. The people saying that they are unaffected are entitled to be as content as they like... for today.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by varenc »

Dedime wrote: post #7

I surprised you didn't link Kelowna's finest newspaper, Castanet: https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/351544/Mudslides-close-all-... I love them because their reporting is terrible and the site itself is straight out of the 90's. They used to run polls that were easy to manipulate, according to a ex-coworker of mine. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Nonetheless, everybody in Kelowna acts like Castanet is…

I actually love this site. So refreshing. Feels like a homepage put together very manually by people that really care.

Love the "Around The Web" section and how it genuinely just wants you to see a video of a cat playing piano [0]. No aggressive ad placement or fake product review schemes. Just an awesome video of a cat they wanted to share.

Edit: And it seems polling system for "How does this story make you feel?" only relies on cookies to prevent duplicate votes... So I sent them 100 votes for "Awesome"

[0] https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-351694-25-.htm#3...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by cbsks »

AutumnCurtain wrote: post #232
cronix wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole upper pacific coastline is experiencing it. There is a lot of flooding along the Oregon coast as well with cars/trailers floating away and evacuations. Intense rains for days at a time. I mean we get a lot of rain here, but this has been pretty crazy and constant.

Let's hope it migrates further south and relieves some of the California drought. Any meteorologists have a sense of the weather patterns at play here?

According to this meteorologist “Drier-than-average winter still most likely outcome for most of California” https://weatherwest.com/archives/11748

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by jjulius »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #54
ortusdux wrote: post #32

Forks WA is currently completely inaccessible by car. Extensive flooding everywhere. All highways and roads are closed. Connecting forest service roads have washed out.

I5 around Bellingham was cut off yesterday night, and all the highways that ran parallel to it have issues. Right now, south bound lanes open only. So you can escape Vancouver, but you can't get back in.

>So you can escape Vancouver, but you can't get back in.

Yes you can.

>WSDOT said detours would happen on the northbound side at exit 242, with drivers getting back on at North Lake Samish Drive.

https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/i-5-near-bellingham-closed-...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by iainctduncan »

iainctduncan wrote: post #269

Here's an article that gives people a better sense of how severe this is. I have lived in Southern BC for 40 years and cannot remember there ever being so many simultaneously affected areas from rain. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bc-floods-tu... And one on the supply chain effects: https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/bc-floods-rail-impact-1.625... Some folks in Vancouver are saying they are unaffected…

here is another of footage of road damage.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/coquihalla-t...

I think many people reading this don't realize that there are road closures ... and then these.

It's not "you shouldn't drive today" and we have some flaggers chewing gum, it's "100s of meters of road no longer exist" kind of damage. Do that in enough places at the same time and it will be months before roads are back to normal. Enough time for severe supply shortages in many places.

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Post by kryz »

Dedime wrote: post #7

I surprised you didn't link Kelowna's finest newspaper, Castanet: https://www.castanet.net/news/BC/351544/Mudslides-close-all-... I love them because their reporting is terrible and the site itself is straight out of the 90's. They used to run polls that were easy to manipulate, according to a ex-coworker of mine. It's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. Nonetheless, everybody in Kelowna acts like Castanet is…

Castanet’s true genius is that it was founded by a guy who owned a bunch of radio stations and thus still sells advertising that way. $xxxx/mo for a rotating 250x250

How many people will see it? Mmm about this many hands outstretched as big as a salmon

The thing prints money as local businesses funnel all their advertising budgets to it.

No expectation of performance, like buying a newspaper ad lol

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by yodsanklai »

Spivak wrote: post #151
actually_a_dog wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It makes me sad to see the parent comment grey (10:16 AM PST). You're absolutely correct that overconsumption is the root of the problem.

I think it's more nuanced than this. Like you're right that reducing consumption/commerce would help but it has trade-offs that lots of people don't jive with and isn't really the root of the problem which is waste. There is zero issue with goods made and distributed using renewables, or goods where non-renewables are reclaimed (i.e. metals, glass, certain plastics).

> There is zero issue with goods made and distributed using renewables

But how much of the goods we consume fall in that category?

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by [deleted] »

lepton wrote: post #202
boborhythm wrote: post #179

Interestingly, there is a railroad line that goes north from Vancouver, through Whistler and Pemberton, but takes a different route than Highway 99 to get to Lillooet[1]. The highway (aka The Duffey, as it passes Duffey Lake) gains and then loses something like 1000m of elevation, whereas the railroad line is much flatter and travels along Gates Lake, Anderson Lake, and Seton Lake. There are dirt/gravel roads there t…

"tortuous" is the word you're wanting there. :)

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