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There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by djbusby »

nitrogen wrote: post #182
dylan604 wrote: post #156

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I understand where you're coming from, but I came from 90s webdev. The gift of aysnc requests was the one true credit I give MS for their contribution to moving the web forward (even if it might have been self-serving). The fact that we no longer had to do full screen refreshes to update one part of the page was glorious. It helped allow the deprecation of frames. However, just like all good things, people decided if…

This goes back to the distinction between web pages/documents (deliver immutable server-side content once, up front) and web apps (lots of back and forth with mutable data on the server). A news website should never be anything except pages , even with interactive content, but it seems almost nobody can resist the urge to treat everything like an app .

I like to think of my App as a collection of Pages. While it does "stuff" we think of implementation Page first.

Then clients say your app is fast and responsive but what they really mean is that we've not built an obese chimera.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by cf100clunk »

arcticbull wrote: post #164
cf100clunk wrote: post #157

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Perhaps the picture being painted by the media is not being accurately assimilated by you? This is real, and magnitude of the circumstances is dire.

Dire in what way? Vancouver still has the YVR airport, a seaport, ferries, a downtown float plane airport and both road and rail access to the US. There will be some impact to prices, I imagine, while the road and rail links to the rest of Canada are rebuilt.

"In the wake of the extreme weather events that continue to devastate First Nations across BC, the First Nations Leadership Council (FNLC) calls on the Provincial government to declare an indefinite State of Emergency in BC, effective immediately."

https://www.bcafn.ca/news/fnlc-calls-state-emergency-due-unp...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by AutumnCurtain »

lhorie wrote: post #255
AutumnCurtain wrote: post #232

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Let's hope it migrates further south and relieves some of the California drought. Any meteorologists have a sense of the weather patterns at play here?

Oh, the atmospheric river did hit California, and pretty hard in some places. Last month was the wettest October on record here in San Francisco. The area around Dixie (where there was a big fire earlier this year) saw landslides. According to a podcast I listened to, this pattern might actually be bad because alternating cycles of extreme rain and extreme dryness means more vegetation growth during the wet months wh…

The loss of established growth hurts in the rainy season too as landslides worsen. In our local San Bernardino mountains here burn patches quickly turn to land or mudslides.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by robotresearcher »

iainctduncan wrote: post #253

It is disappointing to see some people thinking this is not a big deal. Please don't spread that kind of misinformation. We had multiple highways closed over southern BC, many roads down, power outages, municipalities evacuated, and tons of homes flooded in towns and cities all over southern BC. This is affecting a hell of a lot more than whether we can get to the rest of the country by road. There is almost no one w…

It's only a handful of months since we were hearing about unprecedented 45C+ temperatures and towns burning down in minutes

edit: looked it up: peak of 49.6°C (121°F) June 29 2021, Lytton, BC. That's Death Valley/Saudi Arabia temps, in a place full of trees on a major river, above 50°N.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by stevenwoo »

javajosh wrote: post #57
beebs93 wrote: post #34

One of my family members has been stuck just east of Hope, British Columbia[1] for almost two days now. There is currently no cell service, but luckily they have a Garmin inReach so we can communicate via its SMS feature. For anybody with friends/family in the area, the BC subreddit megathread[2] on this is a good starting place to get information on evacuations, power outage status, road closures, official relevant…

That garmin is a cool toy, but pricey ($400 for the device plus $50/mo for unlimited text service). What does your family member do that they have one? It seems like the kind of thing a park ranger would have, or that someone might rent before going on a long hike in a remote area.

There are several areas within 5-10 miles of Apple's Cupertino HQ that have no cell service - the nearby mountains lead to valleys where I assume it's not economical to install cell towers.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by cf100clunk »

vel0city wrote: post #257
Scoundreller wrote: post #188

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Ahhh, I remember it being possible on one of the Baofeng’s that can do almost anything. Transmitting may require licensing, but listening should be fine.

Citizen-Band "CB" is a pretty specific type of AM radio limited to a number of defined channels around 27MHz. Those Baofeng radios are VHF/UHF (140MHz/440MHz) FM radios, not "CB". If you had a Baofeng, and your buddy had a CB, there is no good way they would be able to communicate. These radios can operate in a wide range of frequencies with various levels of legality. But yeah in the US and Canada its generally lega…

I'm pretty sure the parent wasn't commenting on tracking CB radio, just the FSR VHF traffic I mentioned.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by time_to_smile »

lhorie wrote: post #100

For just a bit of context/anecdata, I'm talking to my brother who lives in Vancouver and he wasn't even aware this was a problem. The road closure[0] on hwy 1 near Abbotsford/Chilliwack is a good one hour drive away from Vancouver core[1]. So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way. He…

You could just as easily infer from this anecdata that people that live in cities tend to be very insulated from the infrastructure and larger support systems required to maintain their way of life...

...but Everything is Fine is an equally strong conclusion.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by vel0city »

cf100clunk wrote: post #276
vel0city wrote: post #257

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Citizen-Band "CB" is a pretty specific type of AM radio limited to a number of defined channels around 27MHz. Those Baofeng radios are VHF/UHF (140MHz/440MHz) FM radios, not "CB". If you had a Baofeng, and your buddy had a CB, there is no good way they would be able to communicate. These radios can operate in a wide range of frequencies with various levels of legality. But yeah in the US and Canada its generally lega…

I'm pretty sure the parent wasn't commenting on tracking CB radio, just the FSR VHF traffic I mentioned.

I think so as well, but it looks like they had their terminology confused. They used the term CB originally, then talked about using a Baofeng. I'm just pointing out that CB is something very different from VHF FM. Many lay people see a radio with a handmike and think "CB".

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by inasio »

tehjoker wrote: post #252
lhorie wrote: post #100

For just a bit of context/anecdata, I'm talking to my brother who lives in Vancouver and he wasn't even aware this was a problem. The road closure[0] on hwy 1 near Abbotsford/Chilliwack is a good one hour drive away from Vancouver core[1]. So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way. He…

Doesn't this affect deliveries of needed supplies to the city? I guess the port and railways are not impacted, but I would think roads carry some significant cargo.

Some (not sure if all) railway tracks were also affected [0]. There are two tracks that go into Vancouver (CN and CP have each their own I believe), not sure if both were affected. Keep in mind that the train also works as a pipeline of sorts for the Alberta oil, and a ton of coal comes from the eastern BC border by train. And on that note, I heard speculation that the actual pipelines may have also been affected.

https://twitter.com/TranBC/status/1460391772304064517?ref_sr...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by cf100clunk »

curmudgeon22 wrote: post #261
iainctduncan wrote: post #254

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This is complete bullshit. EVERYONE is affected. Honestly, just read the BC news. If they think they aren't affected, then they don't understand BC supply chains and haven't noticed... yet.

I'm in Burnaby. It was really rainy and windy for a couple days, but I haven't been meaningfully impacted so far. For sure it was a major storm with some major impacts, but I think most people in the lower mainland weren't severely impacted.

If you mean for just today for someone in a less-impacted area of the Lower Mainland, that's an acceptable if minimalist answer, but saying "most people" is very problematic in the light of a huge amount of evidence from primary sources.
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