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There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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I'm surprised there's no shortages yet because trucks can't get to the city. Or does Vancouver import most non-regional goods from the US (and not the rest of Canada) anyway?

Vancouver is one of Canada's major seaports and air transport hubs, so there's that. Still, road, rail, and ferry disruption is extremely troublesome.

It's the biggest coal port in North America, so that will likely be disrupted for a while here.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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I live in Vancouver and had no idea until a friend in another country saw the news and asked me about it. Not to say people elsewhere in BC weren’t impacted (one town had to evacuate) but the media is not painting an accurate picture.

Yeah, the evacuation order in Abbotsford[0] seems like the real news to me. [0] https://www.abbotsford.ca/alerts/evacuation-order-and-alerts...

Merritt seemed big as well.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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The big issue is that the port in Vancouver is now essentially an island. Rail is impacted by this as well.

The CP mainline that washed out will take a while to fix, but the other mainline, CN, doesn’t seem to have taken any serious damage. They’ll definitely have some cleanup somewhere, but that happens after every storm. I hope the two have some mutual aid agreement to bypass over each others tracks.

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Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Certain recreational activities are in fact new as hobbies, at least at scale. Skiing, mountaineering, and camping were once things you did out of necessity, not for funsies. For example, our records for recreational skiing stretch back basically 300 years. Mountaineering has been done practically forever, but as a mass hobby it’s also basically 250 or so years old. The idea that you’d do it for fun rather than as a…

Well, whether we mean the past century or the basically the entire existence of the United States, it's certainly much older than the GPS devices we're talking about, which was the sort of timeframe I had in mind when I said it is not a "fad." If we mean a couple hundred years then we could also call driving a car newfangled and faddish.

Here is one set of stats showing significant growth in hiking from 2006 through 2019: https://www.statista.com/statistics/191240/participants-in-h...

This is consistent with other data I've seen.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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"So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way." Where do truck shipments come into Vancouver from ? Is it all through the US/CA border ?

I wouldn't worry about shipments into town. Suez was out for like a week and the world managed more or less just fine. LA port is backlogged to the wazoo but nobody is starving because of it. My understanding is that the Vancouver situation is only 1-2 days old so far, so there's probably not that much reason for alarm unless damage to every single artery turn out to be serious. Worst comes to worst, the US road is s…

There's already massive waits at the port of Vancouver. Some stuff is taking a month just to be unloaded from ships waiting, and that was before this.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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If I had a nickel for every time folks have suggested moving out to the country as a solution to the housing crisis...

He he, and if I had 4 million nickels I might be able to afford a small home in Metro Vancouver. [EDIT] see reply - should say 40 million but what the heck, I ruined the joke.

You _might_ be able to afford a small home for 200K?? I thought Vancouver was much more expensive than that. Or do you mean only the down payment.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Ahhh, I remember it being possible on one of the Baofeng’s that can do almost anything. Transmitting may require licensing, but listening should be fine.

That's an excellent point - using the channel maps at the site I linked to above, there is nothing to stop someone with a scanner keeping informed of FSR traffic. Just one other point: on an FSR an average person's general sense of traffic "right of way" is generally wrong and can result in some terrible accidents far from help. To wit: the bus crash involving UBC students outside Bamfield.

Pretty sure that was UVic students.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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I live in a very rural area of the US, so I probably have an over-representative sample, but mostly folks I know who own one (myself included) view it at as an essential piece of backcountry safety equipment. If you spend 1 or 2 weekends per month in areas without cell signal (even recreationally, as is my case), it quickly becomes worthwhile even just as a means of emergency communication for people to contact _you_…

How many of those people have a PS5 ($400+, depending on edition), PS4 ($400 at launch) or some flavor of Xbox ($400 or so, depending on edition). I have friends who own multiple game consoles and don't consider it unrestrained opulence that owning a Garmin Inreach supposedly represents.

>PS5 ($400+, depending on edition)

I wish.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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I understand where you're coming from, but I came from 90s webdev. The gift of aysnc requests was the one true credit I give MS for their contribution to moving the web forward (even if it might have been self-serving). The fact that we no longer had to do full screen refreshes to update one part of the page was glorious. It helped allow the deprecation of frames. However, just like all good things, people decided if…

This goes back to the distinction between web pages/documents (deliver immutable server-side content once, up front) and web apps (lots of back and forth with mutable data on the server). A news website should never be anything except pages , even with interactive content, but it seems almost nobody can resist the urge to treat everything like an app .

Not every website is a news site, nor is every non-newsite an app. Having a website that functions as a store front and information page so that 90% of the site is static, yet dynamically being able to add things to a cart is an example. Is that an app? But not having to do a full page refresh on a POST to add an item to a cart is glorius.

Just because the webiste in question of this thread is a newsite doesn't mean we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater because it fits this one category.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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For just a bit of context/anecdata, I'm talking to my brother who lives in Vancouver and he wasn't even aware this was a problem. The road closure[0] on hwy 1 near Abbotsford/Chilliwack is a good one hour drive away from Vancouver core[1]. So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way. He…

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