For just a bit of context/anecdata, I'm talking to my brother who lives in Vancouver and he wasn't even aware this was a problem. The road closure[0] on hwy 1 near Abbotsford/Chilliwack is a good one hour drive away from Vancouver core[1]. So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way. He…
"The boonies", does that include Calgary? There is quite a bit of road traffic between Vancouver and Calgary via Kamloops and Banff. Or did you mean just West of the Rockies?
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#202Interestingly, there is a railroad line that goes north from Vancouver, through Whistler and Pemberton, but takes a different route than Highway 99 to get to Lillooet[1]. The highway (aka The Duffey, as it passes Duffey Lake) gains and then loses something like 1000m of elevation, whereas the railroad line is much flatter and travels along Gates Lake, Anderson Lake, and Seton Lake. There are dirt/gravel roads there t…
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
The overall tone of the thread is about logistics in a port city that is the main port of entry to Canada. Individually, the testing requirements are very disruptive, but it's one less issue that may have impacted supply chains within the BC lower mainland, and an avenue to ship goods out, albeit more expensively. This isn't (generally speaking) a thread about COVID restrictions, but if you want to sound off about th…
Fair enough. My responses might be slightly shaped by the fact I was going to drive to Vancouver next week to visit a friend and am flying to Europe in 2 weeks. > that no one really gives a fuck about how inconvenient travel has become for non-essential activities Plenty of people do. Hence why so many countries (literally the whole EU) are trying to facilitate travel.
Like I said, this isn't a discussion or debate about COVID restrictions, and while it sucks that you might be temporarily inconvenienced in relation to your travel plans, as a person who lives and works in the lower mainland and has several friends and family members who are either homeless or temporarily stranded, temporary travel inconveniences rank somewhere between "oh well", and "could you please not, while we clean up?".
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#204Did Vancouver have a share in the drought that hit parts of the PNW last summer? I wonder if the dry/wet cycle has contributed to the instabilities.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gas comes through pipeline from refineries in Washington, so that should be largely unaffected. Lots of produce does come from the Fraser Valley which is impacted, but also North/South links to the USA (ie. we get heaps of produce from California). I assume there's a fair amount of food that is delivered from the port, as a lot of food packaging warehouses are near the port. Most trade in Canada is North/South aligne…
> we get heaps of produce from California Are the prices in line with what those products would cost in the US (e.g. WA state)? I was under the impression that the prices in BC were lower, so now I'm wondering if the price adjustment to account for local markets is significant or not, or if I misremembered completely.
I don't look too closely at my grocery bill, so I'm probably not the most helpful person to ask.
I assume all the food is cheaper in the USA than Canada.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
Gas comes through pipeline from refineries in Washington, so that should be largely unaffected. Lots of produce does come from the Fraser Valley which is impacted, but also North/South links to the USA (ie. we get heaps of produce from California). I assume there's a fair amount of food that is delivered from the port, as a lot of food packaging warehouses are near the port. Most trade in Canada is North/South aligne…
> we get heaps of produce from California Are the prices in line with what those products would cost in the US (e.g. WA state)? I was under the impression that the prices in BC were lower, so now I'm wondering if the price adjustment to account for local markets is significant or not, or if I misremembered completely.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dire for Merritt (evacuated), Princeton (under water), Hope (all highways closed or curtailed), Abbotsford (under water), Chilliwack (under water), Fernie (no highway access) and a host of other places on the mainland and on the Island that are vital transport, agricultural, forestry, tourism, and mining centres. You mentioned prices, so scale it up to international economics level.
If I had a nickel for every time folks have suggested moving out to the country as a solution to the housing crisis...
[EDIT] see reply - should say 40 million but what the heck, I ruined the joke.
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#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
I live in Vancouver and had no idea until a friend in another country saw the news and asked me about it. Not to say people elsewhere in BC weren’t impacted (one town had to evacuate) but the media is not painting an accurate picture.
Perhaps the picture being painted by the media is not being accurately assimilated by you? This is real, and magnitude of the circumstances is dire.
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I've had similar things happen to me before because I somehow managed to toggle the "avoid highways" setting without realizing it.
Bingo. There is literally one way to get from Vancouver to Whistler: the Sea to Sky/99. And it’s a highway. There are no other links, which is why even when you choose “avoid highways”, you still get put on the 99 between Squamish and Whistler, since that’s literally the only road that connects the two. You get put on some alternative backroads between Squamish and Vancouver, which are horrible to use (it was the onl…
Figuratively. Technically from Whistler you can go north on 99 and then south on 12 and west on 1 and be back at Vancouver.