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There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by Spivak »

actually_a_dog wrote: post #122
blondie9x wrote: post #106

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Exactly. As people over consume and the planet's climate continues to become more erratic and destabilized infrastructure disasters will increase.

It makes me sad to see the parent comment grey (10:16 AM PST). You're absolutely correct that overconsumption is the root of the problem.

I think it's more nuanced than this. Like you're right that reducing consumption/commerce would help but it has trade-offs that lots of people don't jive with and isn't really the root of the problem which is waste. There is zero issue with goods made and distributed using renewables, or goods where non-renewables are reclaimed (i.e. metals, glass, certain plastics).

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by ghaff »

Mikeb85 wrote: post #48
brewdad wrote: post #44

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If you are so hung about about taking a COVID test, I'm sure there is a 14 day quarantine option available to you.

I'm double vaxxed. I can enter the EU without a test. I can enter the US without a test. I can get an EU Green Pass without a test. So why is Canada's policy such? They REQUIRE proof of vaccination to enter, AND a test? Why? Edit - and yes I'm hung up on this. I don't want to pay $200+ dollars for a test I don't need. I got Covid in wave 1 before the first lockdown, I've done everything asked of us; masked, locked do…

You can't fly into the US without a test, even as a US citizen and even if you're fully vaccinated.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by Scoundreller »

bobthepanda wrote: post #113
skrebbel wrote: post #105

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I'm surprised there's no shortages yet because trucks can't get to the city. Or does Vancouver import most non-regional goods from the US (and not the rest of Canada) anyway?

the Trans Canada Highway in some parts is an undivided 2-lane road, so it wouldn't be surprising for freight to choose to take something like I-90 instead, though you would have to go through border checks.

Anything going to southern Ontario or Quebec would already be going through the US if it could because it’s faster, better weather and cheaper gas. The only stuff that wasn’t was stuff that couldn’t (can’t/won’t do the paperwork). Customs bonding and inspections can be a real pain.

Canada Post is going to be a real mess though. They either fly or truck overland domestically.

I don’t think they do any rail.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by ortusdux »

qmarchi wrote: post #130
ortusdux wrote: post #32

Forks WA is currently completely inaccessible by car. Extensive flooding everywhere. All highways and roads are closed. Connecting forest service roads have washed out.

Yeah, my fiancee's grandparents sent us pictures of the there camp being completely flooded.

Forks is famous or its rain, but yesterday was the worst in recent memory. Several rivers hit record flood levels.

It's pretty rough. A friend got stuck out there around 9AM yesterday. He is use to closures and taking forest road detours, but we checked with DOT and DNR and all routes were closed. We tried to set him up with a hotel, but most in Forks were flooded by noon. I've seen videos of people boating down main street.

A friend has a AirBNB out there and the one grocery store in town is on high ground, so luckily my stuck friend had a comfortable night. We found a trail out, so he parked his company truck at the head and is hiking the 4 miles out. Another friend should be picking him up in a few minutes.

If their grandparents need any help, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by theandrewbailey »

I watched a video series of a road trip from Victoria to somewhere in Yukon.[0] After getting to the mainland and past the Vancouver metro area, the quality of roads is striking. The further north they went, the more nothing they saw.

[0] https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLV_qemO0oath2Wpt7-8jQ...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by dylan604 »

dleslie wrote: post #98
mattmanser wrote: post #80

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So, an outsider's perspective: 1. It loads super quick 2. The list of articles is clear and easy to scan 3. There aren't a shit ton of adverts 4. There are no bloody popups, cookie notices, donate banners, etc. 5. The entire page doesn't load, me start reading then suddenly completely greyed out with an overlay because of badly implemented 4 6. No auto-playing videos that are impossible to find to stop If this is 90s…

The key with 90s web design is the relative absence of Javascript. There's virtually no asynchronous requests; and Castanet works fine with NoScript, most modern sites do not.

I understand where you're coming from, but I came from 90s webdev. The gift of aysnc requests was the one true credit I give MS for their contribution to moving the web forward (even if it might have been self-serving). The fact that we no longer had to do full screen refreshes to update one part of the page was glorious. It helped allow the deprecation of frames.

However, just like all good things, people decided if a little is good more would be better. This is why we can't have nice things, but it doesn't mean that the thing itself isn't nice.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by cf100clunk »

zaptheimpaler wrote: post #125
lhorie wrote: post #100

For just a bit of context/anecdata, I'm talking to my brother who lives in Vancouver and he wasn't even aware this was a problem. The road closure[0] on hwy 1 near Abbotsford/Chilliwack is a good one hour drive away from Vancouver core[1]. So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way. He…

I live in Vancouver and had no idea until a friend in another country saw the news and asked me about it. Not to say people elsewhere in BC weren’t impacted (one town had to evacuate) but the media is not painting an accurate picture.

Perhaps the picture being painted by the media is not being accurately assimilated by you? This is real, and magnitude of the circumstances is dire.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by dylan604 »

javajosh wrote: post #57
beebs93 wrote: post #34

One of my family members has been stuck just east of Hope, British Columbia[1] for almost two days now. There is currently no cell service, but luckily they have a Garmin inReach so we can communicate via its SMS feature. For anybody with friends/family in the area, the BC subreddit megathread[2] on this is a good starting place to get information on evacuations, power outage status, road closures, official relevant…

That garmin is a cool toy, but pricey ($400 for the device plus $50/mo for unlimited text service). What does your family member do that they have one? It seems like the kind of thing a park ranger would have, or that someone might rent before going on a long hike in a remote area.

>What does your family member do that they have one?

They live in Canada, at least those parts of it that makes this a necessity rather than a luxury.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by Scoundreller »

cf100clunk wrote: post #148
mikestew wrote: post #120

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What does your family member do that they have one? Goes on a hike and realizes that a lot of BC doesn't have any cell service? I haven't used mine for an actual emergency, but it did come in handy in Yukon with an irreparable motorcycle tire. I mostly use it as a backcountry text message device to let the spouse know I'm not dead, or just general chat if I have messages left. Regardless, "long hike in a remote area"…

There are still some of us who have CB radios (with all their limitations acknowledged) in our vehicles for back country emergency use, and I occasionally see mobile ham radio operators. A Garmin inReach seems like it would be a good addition.

CBs are good for the forest service roads so you know when logging trucks are coming or going.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Post by vmception »

lhorie wrote: post #100

For just a bit of context/anecdata, I'm talking to my brother who lives in Vancouver and he wasn't even aware this was a problem. The road closure[0] on hwy 1 near Abbotsford/Chilliwack is a good one hour drive away from Vancouver core[1]. So while it sounds noteworthy for an entire city be technically flooded in, unless you were driving to the boonies, you're probably not actually impacted in any meaningful way. He…

The floods arent the issue the highway washed away
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