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There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #18

The other day, I was in Whistler and tried to use Google Maps to route back to Vancouver. It wanted me to take logging roads through the back country.. roads that are actually deactivated and impossible to traverse unless you have a trail bike perhaps. That’s Canada for you…

We made a go of getting back from Mt. Hood in Oregon to Seattle without taking I5 or I82. The only route viable was on US Forest service roads though the mountains, with around 40 miles unpaved.

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not without a Covid test, no matter your vaccination status...

Vaccinated people can still catch, carry, and communicate COVID to others... and if you got vaccinated before the summer, your antibody levels are probably not as high as you think. Vaccination is not a binary thing, in terms of how it actually works. If an unvaccinated person catches COVID from you, it doesn't matter whether or not you (the carrier) were vaccinated... The virus that ravages and possibly kills your s…

Yes, definitely going to catch Covid in your car, driving through the US to get around the flooded out highways...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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A different article[1] I read with a similar headline has this claim: > To leave the Lower Mainland of BC, you would have to use Highway 99, Highway 1, or the Coquihalla. I'm not at all familiar with the area. Are there really only 3 roads between Vancouver and the rest of Canada without going through Washington? That seems like such a low number. [1] https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/highway-closures-flooding-mu...

Yes. Vancouver sits in a little triangle of land in the south-west (bottom-left?) corner of Canada, completely surrounded by mountains to the north and east. We heavily rely on the highway south through the state of Washington.

Could you take the ferry to Prince Rupert and get out that way?

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a covid19 test now to drive into the USA. You do need to be fully vaccinated and to declare you have no symptoms. This is new with the border re-opening for non essential travel just about a week ago. You do need a covid19 test (quick antigen test is OK) to fly from Canada to the US. You do need a PCR covid19 test taken within the past 72 hours to re-enter canada by land or air, per CBSA requirements.

Yes, I know. Only Canada is requiring it. Nothing you said here refutes my statement. I'm talking about driving from Vancouver to another part of Canada. Because of the content of the article. To commute via the US, a test is required (because of Canada's current policy).

Clearly you don't know folks working in the industry; Trade and Transportation drivers have been and are exempt from testing requirements. My brother has been driving to and from the area around Winnipeg through North and South Dakota as a truck driver during the entire pandemic, and was vaccinated early by the US. (also, non-anecdotal source -> https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/exempt... )

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #10

You can still go around, through the US.

Not without a Covid test, no matter your vaccination status...

Unless you are exempt, like truck drivers. https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/exempt...

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #47
post #18

The other day, I was in Whistler and tried to use Google Maps to route back to Vancouver. It wanted me to take logging roads through the back country.. roads that are actually deactivated and impossible to traverse unless you have a trail bike perhaps. That’s Canada for you…

I'd say "that's Google for you" but really it's whatever variant of Dijkstra's algorithm they (and other map services) use. If somebody puts the roads on a map, there will be network conditions that suggest they might be useful... whether or not they actually exist in a usable condition.

I've never had Google try to take me anywhere really ridiculous and I've played with its routing algorithm in places like Death Valley and it does seem to avoid "interesting" shortcuts if there's a more reasonable alternative.

But once you get below well-traveled paved roads, you probably want some local knowledge because there's not a lot of mapping data that differentiated between a well-graded, good condition dirt road and a potentially seasonal road that you probably want high clearance 4WD for (and know how to use it).

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #9

I misinterpreted the headline the mean that the city was continuously surrounded by roads, e.g. a wild animal trying to reach the city could not without crossing a road somewhere.

Should be: "Vancouver is now completely cut off by road from the rest of Canada"

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

#69
post #65
post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I know. Only Canada is requiring it. Nothing you said here refutes my statement. I'm talking about driving from Vancouver to another part of Canada. Because of the content of the article. To commute via the US, a test is required (because of Canada's current policy).

Clearly you don't know folks working in the industry; Trade and Transportation drivers have been and are exempt from testing requirements. My brother has been driving to and from the area around Winnipeg through North and South Dakota as a truck driver during the entire pandemic, and was vaccinated early by the US. (also, non-anecdotal source -> https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/exempt... )

And what does that have to do with anyone who doesn't fit into that one category?

Re: There is currently no way to drive between Vancouver and the rest of Canada

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post #34

One of my family members has been stuck just east of Hope, British Columbia[1] for almost two days now. There is currently no cell service, but luckily they have a Garmin inReach so we can communicate via its SMS feature. For anybody with friends/family in the area, the BC subreddit megathread[2] on this is a good starting place to get information on evacuations, power outage status, road closures, official relevant…

That garmin is a cool toy, but pricey ($400 for the device plus $50/mo for unlimited text service). What does your family member do that they have one? It seems like the kind of thing a park ranger would have, or that someone might rent before going on a long hike in a remote area.

when you're stranded in the tundra and the garmin is your only contact to civilization, it's the smartphone that's a toy
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