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Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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Advise is good, but the author says you should have 2 or less fonts and 3 or less colors. The picture he uses to show this: minimum 5 colors.

In the H/S/L view of color overal, "2 colors" may mean 2 different hues, presented with many different Saturations and Lightnesses.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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post #7

I hate to be that guy, but this isn't "Design Secrets For Engineers", it's "Design Secrets For Software Engineers." (or developers/UIX/etc). "Keep visual hierarchy in check" and "Use designer fonts" isn't very useful advice in designing an instrumented hammer... "Engineering," especially in the colloquial usage of the word, covers a lot areas that have things in common, but there are lots of things those areas don't…

> I hate to be that guy (...)

Still, it's good you are. It's not a discussion board, people talking about tangential issues are (IMO) one of the best things you can see on HN.

Also, I tend to think that 'software engineering' is the least engineering-like of all engineering disciplines.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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I never thought of using KeyNote to design a UI. I always thought designers use Photoshop or InDesign for that purpose. Is KeyNote used just for the ease of use, or is there some other requirement that the Adobe products don't measure up to?

I used PowerPoint for prototyping UIs and designs for HTML letters. It's quite handy tool for the task. The nice thing is that you can just throw shapes onto a slide and then when you run the slideshow, you get a full-screen version of your graphics, cropped to the slide boundaries. Simplifies a lot of stuff for me.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hate to be that guy Then don't be. It's posted on HN - the context makes it pretty obvious. If a computer could trivially work out it was likely to be about software engineering using Bayesian reasoning ("engineer" in title AND posted on HN) then a person should be able to as well.

Bayesian reasoning is actually "given the Prior X, what is the likelihood that Y is true" ? What you are referring to is the far more simplistic Boolean reasoning.

Sorry, you are right - I was lazy when I wrote that.

I should have stated it like this: given "engineer" in title AND posted on HN what is the likelihood that it refers to a Software Engineer.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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I never thought of using KeyNote to design a UI. I always thought designers use Photoshop or InDesign for that purpose. Is KeyNote used just for the ease of use, or is there some other requirement that the Adobe products don't measure up to?

Keynote is really nice for mockups. It has more than capable drawing tools and the snapping is excellent. It's major benefit over a Photoshop or Illustrator would be its relative simplicity. With mockups that is a big factor. Less complexity in the tool can mean less opportunity to add complexity in your design.

Not only drawing, but as the author suggests, sequence. Keynote makes it trivial to play and reorder the deck to try how things could flow from view to view. Quite harder with PS or AI.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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post #29
post #7

I hate to be that guy, but this isn't "Design Secrets For Engineers", it's "Design Secrets For Software Engineers." (or developers/UIX/etc). "Keep visual hierarchy in check" and "Use designer fonts" isn't very useful advice in designing an instrumented hammer... "Engineering," especially in the colloquial usage of the word, covers a lot areas that have things in common, but there are lots of things those areas don't…

It should really be "Visual design secrets for software engineers." It's kinda irksome how graphic designers try to own the word "design." Design is a vital part of all engineering, software or otherwise.

This feels like it could go on and on. These are not secrets either. And this is not for all software engineers, just for those who need to design web pages.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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I never thought of using KeyNote to design a UI. I always thought designers use Photoshop or InDesign for that purpose. Is KeyNote used just for the ease of use, or is there some other requirement that the Adobe products don't measure up to?

Illustrator is awesome. Also, pencil and a piece of paper. Sometimes I create physical models of complex UI objects if I need to grasp their animations/behavior. Some designers I knew liked Balsamiq, or Blend, but everyone knows how to draw on paper.

It would be harder to design in Photoshop, methinks, since when designing you're dealing with abstract shapes and lines (vector) not raw pixels (raster). I mean sometimes you do :) I created and prototyped this cool video-preview control entirely in Paint.NET, literally changing pixels to create gradients.

Re: Design Secrets For Engineers

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beware that designer fonts are expensive! Most people don't realize that fonts bundled with Microsoft Word or Adobe Photoshop might require a license for commercial use!

Just take a typekit account. For $50 a year, you get unlimited fonts on unlimited number of websites. There is an upper limit on traffic, but if you hit that number, you won't mind paying more.

But what about printed materials like business cards and letterhead? You would want these to match your web style.
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