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Re: Icon Ambulance

#31

Post by sskates »

nhashem wrote: post #6

Because it's Steve Jobs, this is a great anecdote. I'm sure we'll hear dozens of them in the next couple days and weeks, all examples of Jobs' attention to detail and design resulting in superior products and software. Yet imagine your boss calling you on a Sunday and saying, "So I was reviewing the DBA's data model for the new product, and I really don't like how he's called the columns with customers identifiers 'c…

Jobs WAS perceived as absolutely absurd during his first stint at Apple. It's a big part of why the board kicked him out in 1985.

If he didn't have a track record of success on the iPod, iPhone, and iPad, his demanding and aggressive personality wouldn't go over as well.

Most people with his type of personality come off as extremely abrasive more than they come off as "genius".

Re: Icon Ambulance

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Post by donpark »

nhashem wrote: post #6

Because it's Steve Jobs, this is a great anecdote. I'm sure we'll hear dozens of them in the next couple days and weeks, all examples of Jobs' attention to detail and design resulting in superior products and software. Yet imagine your boss calling you on a Sunday and saying, "So I was reviewing the DBA's data model for the new product, and I really don't like how he's called the columns with customers identifiers 'c…

Wrong analogy. Appearance of icon impacts users' perception directly where name of a DB column does not. Also, I doubt Steve nitpicks every detail, just ones he comes across and ones he has a fetish about. As UI fetishes go, icons rate top billing.

Re: Icon Ambulance

#33

Post by Zak »

tlrobinson wrote: post #25
cmelbye wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think attention to detail in terms of a column name is different than attention to visual design and look and feel of a product.

Steve Jobs doesn't think so. Have you seen the insides of Apple products? They're as beautiful as the outsides of competitors' products.

In my experience, that's only true of the parts the customer is intended to take apart. The inside of a Mac Pro is beautiful. The inside of a Macbook... not so much.

Re: Icon Ambulance

#34

Post by siglesias »

Which icon is he referring to?

Update, via @arnoldkim: Jan 2008, Jobs did MWSF Keynote and introduced Webclips with home screen icons. twitpic.com/6aye3l

Re: Icon Ambulance

#36

Post by enneff »

Zak wrote: post #33
tlrobinson wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Jobs doesn't think so. Have you seen the insides of Apple products? They're as beautiful as the outsides of competitors' products.

In my experience, that's only true of the parts the customer is intended to take apart. The inside of a Mac Pro is beautiful. The inside of a Macbook... not so much.

Are you kidding? You really think there isn't something incredibly beautiful about this?

http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/MacBook-Air-13-Inch-Mid-2011-...

Re: Icon Ambulance

#37

Post by mtkd »

cmelbye wrote: post #9
nhashem wrote: post #6

Because it's Steve Jobs, this is a great anecdote. I'm sure we'll hear dozens of them in the next couple days and weeks, all examples of Jobs' attention to detail and design resulting in superior products and software. Yet imagine your boss calling you on a Sunday and saying, "So I was reviewing the DBA's data model for the new product, and I really don't like how he's called the columns with customers identifiers 'c…

I think attention to detail in terms of a column name is different than attention to visual design and look and feel of a product.

The fact that he enforces quality and innovation in every part of his organisation (hardware, software, purchasing experience) is why the company is so successful.

The mistake everyone else makes is believing only the tip of the iceberg matters.

Re: Icon Ambulance

#38

Post by hessenwolf »

tzs wrote: post #16
cmelbye wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think attention to detail in terms of a column name is different than attention to visual design and look and feel of a product.

The assorted people who came before me and somehow exuded what became the main database where I work did not pay attention to column names. It is infinitely annoying when I'm writing SQL to have to stop and check to see if the account ID is "account_id", "acid", "Account_ID", or "acct_id".

Or f_e_id. (This turned out to be fund value at the end of the month - the fund value is the value in the account, if you really want to look it that way.)

Re: Icon Ambulance

#39

Post by rmc »

nhashem wrote: post #6

Because it's Steve Jobs, this is a great anecdote. I'm sure we'll hear dozens of them in the next couple days and weeks, all examples of Jobs' attention to detail and design resulting in superior products and software. Yet imagine your boss calling you on a Sunday and saying, "So I was reviewing the DBA's data model for the new product, and I really don't like how he's called the columns with customers identifiers 'c…

So I was reviewing the DBA's data model for the new product, and I really don't like how he's called the columns

I have worked for people like that.

Re: Icon Ambulance

#40

Post by rikthevik »

Zak wrote: post #33
tlrobinson wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Steve Jobs doesn't think so. Have you seen the insides of Apple products? They're as beautiful as the outsides of competitors' products.

In my experience, that's only true of the parts the customer is intended to take apart. The inside of a Mac Pro is beautiful. The inside of a Macbook... not so much.

What would you rather a circuit board look like? They are satisfying 23 different constraints at once. They are small, fast, constrained by size, power and heat, and still they look good. What the fuck do you want?
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