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Temporal proximity. If it tripped today because it was automatic, why didn't it trip the other 10 days they used the same feeds?

Because 40,000 people maybe?

Yes it has grown in popularity, but most of the growth happened last week.

Closing: 811k

Day10: 492k (Administrative, no jury)

Day 9: 773k

Day 8: 846k

Day 7: 469k

Day 6: 423k

Day 5: 155k

Day 4: 126k

Day 3: 109k

Day 2: 90k

Day 1: 74k

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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They're not that big compared to arms. Moderately more leverage, but a significant reduction in weight.

They're about as long medieval maces, with a similarly heavy bit of metal on the end. And when either is held in the hand and swung, they have substantially more leverage than the hand itself. Unless you think he was swinging a skateboard from his armpit? This conversation is getting ridiculous.

> And when either is held in the hand and swung, they have substantially more leverage than the hand itself. Unless you think he was swinging a skateboard from his armpit?

A skateboard held in your hand can't use much of the mass of your arm to help, it's mostly impacting with its own weight. Your hand can impact with a lot more weight behind it even though the swing radius won't be as big.

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>compare the actual unedited testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head You mean Rittenhouse did not fire at Gaige until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head. Rittenhouse had just opened fire on two unarmed men, killing one of them. Kind of a major omission to make when you're accusing "the mainstre…

When you say unarmed men, surely you don't intend to omit the fact that they ambushed him and were chasing him and attempting to grievously assault him while he was trying to get away? This omission game goes both ways. You're leaving pertinent information out to support your narrative also.

Continuing to clarify the facts of the situation.

He had already committed murder at this point. It's not unusual (though it is unwise) to attempt to prevent a murderer from running away. Furthermore, saying that anyone was "attempting to grievously assault him" is speculation, since he shot and killed the first person to reach him after he tripped, and then shot the next person who was trying to disarm him.

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> these smaller independent journalists and commenters go against the reality that media companies want you to believe you live in. For an example from this specific case, compare the actual unedited testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head , to the coverage of his testimony by CNN, et. al. The mainstream media l…

CNN directly includes this fact: https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/08/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-mon... > "It wasn't until you pointed your gun at him, advanced at him with your gun ... that he fired," Chirafisi said. "Right," Grosskreutz responded. I always find it funny how 99% of the time when people claim "the mainstream media is too biased to cover this", if you look at the corresponding article it is 100% covered.

People don't base this opinion on a single article but on the coverage of the situation holistically as it evolves. Most of the 'bombshell' revelations in this trial have been available on the internet since the week of the shooting. The number of videos and images that show that it wasn't until Grosskreutz pointed his gun at Rittenhouse and advanced on him aiming at his head that he was shot is overwhelming and yet it seemed to catch the prosecutors and journalists completely by surprise.

If you watch the videos of the event in sequence you realise that this is one of the most blatant and well documented cases of self-defence in history, yet people who have only consumed media coverage of the shooting have been surprised by the difficulty that the prosecution have had proving it was murder. Clearly there is something broken in the transmission of information there.

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Not me, but courts. Not just a weapon, but a deadly weapon.

Courts aren't automatically reasonable. You're endorsing the classification. Fists can do just as much damage as a skateboard.

If you are just going to call the entire court system rigged, or whatever, then it is corrospondingly difficult to take what you are saying seriously.

As a general rule, I think that the legal experts know more about this than you do.

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It even worse. Ukraine is under Russian attack for more then 7 years. Yet all disputes are directed to 'Moscow office' because Susan Wojcicki thinks it is absolutely logical to have such structure. As result any attempts to stand against Russia sponsored propaganda and lies are prosecuted by Youtube. There are brave Ukrainian man and women who with their own time and resources are trying to stand against huge Russian…

Oh man, if you're surprised by Big Tech's active oppression of minority cultures, you should have been here when Apple handed over the keys to their digital kingdom to China's communist party.

I am not surprised but I am not going to tolerate it any more without resistance. For each 'shit happening' usually there is one responsible for it. 'Shit' doesn't just happens. 'Shit' takes time. Shit takes effort of those responsible for it. And they should feel the consequences for making any 'shit' happen.

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Courts aren't automatically reasonable. You're endorsing the classification. Fists can do just as much damage as a skateboard.

If you are just going to call the entire court system rigged, or whatever, then it is corrospondingly difficult to take what you are saying seriously. As a general rule, I think that the legal experts know more about this than you do.

No, not rigged.

But sometimes things get interpreted in ways that really stretch the meanings of words. I think anyone that has looked at legal history can agree with that.

And sometimes legal definitions are dumb, which isn't even a court thing.

Also even if it's correct inside its realm, if enough objects count as deadly weapons then "he had a deadly weapon" loses most of its impact and gets misleading. I'm reminded that technically a bare receiver is a gun...

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> They have paid settlements and plead guilty for causing harm through their sting attempts and disinformation multiple times. I saw that they pled guilty to trespassing but have otherwise won all their completed defamation cases. Do you have a source/list of which cases they pled guilty to "misinformation" or similar?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACORN_2009_undercover_videos_c... > In March 2013, O'Keefe settled the case with Vera, paying Vera $100,000. He tried to entrap someone for human smuggling. The guy immediately reported it to the police, but O'Keefe released edited footage anyway. > The video releases were heavily edited to feature only the worst or most inappropriate statements of the various ACORN employees and to omit…

Damn that's messed up. Got any more?

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I’m surprised how blantant the narrative pushing is orchestrated. This example happened the other day on NBC news(main channel). So regardless of your stance on ivermectin, this is what played the other day: Aaron Roger’s used ivermectin at the advise of Joe Rogan. Ivermectin is oftentimes used a horse dewormer. Return from Pfizer commercial. Pfizer has announced a new Covid antiviral drug that combines mRNA therapy…

> I don’t know if Ivermectin is effective for Covid or not. From what I have heard it seems like looking into it with an unbiased lens may be worth it. People did look into this with an unbiased lens (did dozens of medical studies, many still ongoing) and so far there is no good evidence that it has any beneficial effect whatsoever. On the other hand now a bunch of people have overdosed from taking veterinary doses n…

I did a quick google search for articles about ivermectin overdose but all I found was there's been an uptick but it seems overexaggerated. This[0] one shows there were 21 people who called in about ivermectin, it's only one state but still doesn't seem like a big deal. There was another story about a Mississippi hospital[1] where 70% calls were about ivermectin but then it turned out they meant 70% of calls about ivermectin (not total calls) were about the animal version. This article [2] includes Minnesota which saw Treating covid with ivermectin does seem like a bad idea, but it also doesn't really seem that dangerous overall. I'm sure there are deaths out there from people overdosing on it but they seem like a really rare event.

[0] - https://forbes.com/sites/joewalsh/2021/10/20/calls-about-ive...

[1] - https://msdh.ms.gov/msdhsite/_static/resources/15400.pdf

[2] - https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/0...

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#420

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Yeah, and a knife can kill just as well as a gun. Except it can’t. A medium build woman can break one’s skull with 2-3 swings of a skateboard, especially if it lands on the edge or on a sticking metal part. To achieve the same damage with fists, it would take years of training and would also cause a significant damage to one’s hands.

If hitting with just the right angle on a hard bit is good enough to count then half the things on my desk are deadly weapons. I can't get behind that definition.

Then don’t. You can continue denying common sense. But if someone threatens to assault you with a skateboard, bare hand or an item from your desk, then will intuitively discover the difference.
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