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What is an assault rifle?

It’s a really big rifle. Next question.

It's not.

Most hunting rifles for e.g. deer rifles fire larger caliber rounds than the rifle in question in the case. Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but "big" does not necessarily mean "more deadly", nor does "big" actually apply to this rifle.

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> these smaller independent journalists and commenters go against the reality that media companies want you to believe you live in. For an example from this specific case, compare the actual unedited testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head , to the coverage of his testimony by CNN, et. al. The mainstream media l…

>compare the actual unedited testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head You mean Rittenhouse did not fire at Gaige until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head. Rittenhouse had just opened fire on two unarmed men, killing one of them. Kind of a major omission to make when you're accusing "the mainstre…

When you say unarmed men, surely you don't intend to omit the fact that they ambushed him and were chasing him and attempting to grievously assault him while he was trying to get away?

This omission game goes both ways. You're leaving pertinent information out to support your narrative also.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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So I tuned in out of curiosity. I'm assuming these guys are biased in favor of the defense? They were just laughing at the fact that Rosenbaum is dead. Or do they just have a dark sense of humor or something?

It seems to be the literal definition of the peanut gallery. They keep shouting "object" like they are in the court room. You would think the kinda profession that puts "I'm not your lawyer" at the top of their blog post would know better than to run the equivalent of a Twitch react stream. If this is the grand future the grandparent had in mind, I want no part of it.

they're yelling that in criticism of the defense lawyer richards, actually, not 'as if they were his lawyer'. This is the last day of this trial and criticism of his lack of objections has been a big part of their coverage over the last week+. It's allowed the prosecutor to enter a lot of evidence without anyone to qualify it or attest to it because the defense just didn't object, which matters in jury decision and would matter on an appeal. There are points of argument about the type of bullet (hollow point vs metal jacket), and edited video that should never have been considered given the person who made it showed they didn't understand the underlying change or ever compared it to the original video, etc.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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How is it objectively incorrect, if he pretty much quoted a direct speech verbatim? At least one of them hit Rittenhouse with a skateboard, so he was armed.

If you're calling a skateboard a weapon I'm going to take everything you say with a mountain of salt.

Not me, but courts. Not just a weapon, but a deadly weapon.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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If you're calling a skateboard a weapon I'm going to take everything you say with a mountain of salt.

Not me, but courts. Not just a weapon, but a deadly weapon.

Courts aren't automatically reasonable. You're endorsing the classification.

Fists can do just as much damage as a skateboard.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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If I'm re-streaming a public access channel, say PBS, that is live-streaming a trial and I'm doing commentary on it how exactly does that trigger an automated copyright take-down notice? Am I missing something on how public events are covered under copyright law? (IANAL)

I've been following Rekieta's stream for about a week, it was ok until today. I doubt that it was automated, probably reported by someone.

Hadn't thought of that. I've been listening intermitently, and the fact that only today - and during Jury instructions no less - does the channel go down make me think that yeah, someone reported it, and the automation probably kicked in after that. Simplest explanation I think.

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The fact that there is a faceless algorithm which has seemingly been programmed specifically to remove content which fails to align with a specific political narrative, and that no human is in active control of this, is actually worse .

>there is a faceless algorithm which has seemingly been programmed specifically to remove content which fails to align with a specific political narrative Or, without having to put on a tinfoil hat, it's been trained to remove content that discusses shooting and killing people? Or even more benignly, a lot of people reported the stream because users also have a vested interest in abusing censorship systems for politi…

> Or, without having to put on a tinfoil hat...

You don't have to attack the legitimacy of someone's position like this. Sure, it is possible that the reasons for it are what you're saying, but this personal dismissive attack is unwarranted, and frankly at this point tired and ineffective.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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post #22

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> these smaller independent journalists and commenters go against the reality that media companies want you to believe you live in. For an example from this specific case, compare the actual unedited testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head , to the coverage of his testimony by CNN, et. al. The mainstream media l…

Yes, that was terrible. First, here's a copy of the photo of their interaction for reference which I found online. There are plenty of copies, including in the tweet referenced by Snopes below if you don't like this one: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290695292964306948/90... Now here's what Grosskreutz said on the stand: Corey Chirafisi: Now, you’d agree your firearm is pointed at Mr. Rittenhouse. Correct? G…

GG is a interesting person. He was already convicted of home invasion and is therefore prohibited from carrying/owning/purchasing a gun.

He had DUIs after this event but was let off

There has been some suggestion that his ability to avoid prosecution suggests that he is a likely FBI informant in Antifa.

GG isn't from Kenosha but no one makes any issue about him illegally traveling there to riot with a weapon

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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It’s a really big rifle. Next question.

It's not. Most hunting rifles for e.g. deer rifles fire larger caliber rounds than the rifle in question in the case. Perhaps you're being sarcastic, but "big" does not necessarily mean "more deadly", nor does "big" actually apply to this rifle.

Thank you for the reply! While I have the chance, allow me one last question: When it comes to AR15 platform, what differentiates a pistol from a rifle?

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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As opposed to falsely claiming he had an assault rifle and thinking that somehow strengthens the emotional/moral impact of an argument?

You are either being intentionally disingenuous or you are so deep in this that you don’t understand how other people think. To a lot of people, giant military-looking gun = assault rifle. And saying “actually it’s technically not an assault rifle” makes absolutely no difference. It’s not always a false claim; rather it’s a minor, irrelevant detail. Swatting it down doesn’t matter, except to the person swatting it do…

>To a lot of people, giant military-looking gun = assault rifle.

Yes, exactly my point. It's cosmetically scary and calling it an assault rifle makes the minds of many of those hearing it jump to a fear-based response. When in reality an AR-15 is no more or less deadly than any other semiautomatic rifle in the same caliber. Slapping black plastic on a gun may make it look "scarier" to the uninformed, but it doesn't change the threat that Kyle did or did not pose by being there armed.

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