Is it possible for us to put aside the edgelord screeching over censorship and instead talk rationally about content distribution regulations, required public APIs, and using the Post Office for things like email/videos/blogs/PGP keys/etc?
YouTube takes down independent court livestreams
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#122I think at this point we can just expect this stuff. The ridiculousness of it, though. The rekieta law stream (which is fantastic , btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7YXd2M5E-8 ) has anywhere from 4-12 active lawyers giving commentary and context to everything that is happening. This is exactly the type of thing we dreamed about when we were first creating the internet. However: often times these smaller independ…
Maybe. Buts its also as likely that this is the result of an automated copyright take-down notice.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also compare Grosskreutz's testimony to his statements to various news networks this past week, where he repeatedly contradicted his own sworn testimony.
He lied to the media but told the truth under oath? I'm surprised.
What should be surprising here is that, when interviewed on these major networks after his court testimony, no journalist asked him that very obvious and clear follow-up question.
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#124I really want to stress that while the internet has enabled just about everyone to act as a citizen journalist, it is not the ubiquity of information that matters, but rather, the access to information. YouTube and Google wield great power when it comes to gatekeeping information. The sinister part is that plenty of people, left and right, will defend Google's ability to do this merely because they are "a private com…
The sinister part is that plenty of people, left and right, will defend Google's ability to do this merely because they are "a private company".
A lot of people will defend google ability to do that because they have a "first amendment right".
Adding air quotes or actual quotes doesn't change that..
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
> these smaller independent journalists and commenters go against the reality that media companies want you to believe you live in. For an example from this specific case, compare the actual unedited testimony of Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head , to the coverage of his testimony by CNN, et. al. The mainstream media l…
> Gaige Grosskreutz, who admitted on the stand that Rittenhouse did not fire until Gaige's Glock 17 was pointed directly at Kyle's head I've more or less read that fact on NYT though. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/08/us/kyle-rittenhouse-gaige... > “So when you were standing three to five feet from him with your arms up in the air, he never fired, right?” Corey Chirafisi, a defense lawyer, asked. > “Correct,” Mr. Gr…
CNN also had an article with the same information:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/08/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-mon...
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#126[flagged]
I'm not sure I understand - do you mean these suggestions are placed there by Twitter to deligitimize the original tweet [who, in that case, would have a valid complaint but is being maligned by association with the addition of "crank stuff"] ?
Or are you saying the original tweet is from a crank and the placement by twitter of additional "crank stuff" is proof of the crank label?
BTW when I view the tweet (also not logged in), I got no suggestions at all, so Twitter are presenting it in a different way to different visitors (i.e. you and me for sure). Perhaps you were part of an A-B test?
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#127This might be happening because the same feed is available on YouTube TV, so similar content might be hit by the Content ID system meant to stop people from restreaming TV on YouTube.
Actually, this HN post was a honey trap to identify its conspiratorial user-base. lol
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#128Can't have people talking freely
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#129Once is an accident.
Twice is coincidence.
Three times is enemy action.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
How about censoring Dislikes? This is in progress now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOuG8jMIgI&t=1s
That's their data that they're choosing not to disclose. That is not censorship. Analogously, if somebody asks for your name and you don't mention your middle name, that is also not censorship. HN only shows max(upvotes-downvotes, -4) to the original commenter. Censorship?
imo it's censorship to the degree that seeing a ratio does explicitly or implicitly set a specific context to a video. For example, say we have a government published video for an initiative that is incredibly unpopular. However, by masking the actual dissent, all you see is one side of the equation, not allowing you as a citizen to easily see how contentious / controversial something that could directly affect your life really is. It's all about controlling dissent imo, there's no real reason to hide this otherwise.
As such, yeah HN does only show up/downvote ratios like you are claiming. However, the scale is completely different between here and YT, which is a primary source of information for many people nowadays.
Edit - To further elaborate, with the same example, imagine that not only is the dislike ratio masking the actual dissent, but other companies and platforms are collaborating on a truth, and discussion to the contrary cannot be discussed on their platform. This is what is literally happening, you have to be blind to not see it at this point. Government published videos are having their ratios hidden, anything that is counter to the decided narrative is being automatically flagged by AIs on FB/Twitter to throw "warnings" up. This is the nature of the current web right now and you really should acknowledge the tightening of the grip that these companies are doing over the years.