Edit: To add to this, I think working in tech industry now is very fast moving. I also put in a lot of effort to refresh & stay current. If you end up with the attitude of "it's too late to study", then you'll get left behind very quickly. Young people have a lot of free time and they catch up very very quickly.
Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
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Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#12I don't think a degree is going to help in say 3D graphics, but it will help your career. Definitely a disadvantage for those that don't.
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#13I'm feeling this at my job now. Maybe it's better you felt it in school rather than at work. I dont want to "drop out"CB of my job since I need that for living expenses.
"But then I look around and see the cool jobs in 3D graphics, in distributed systems, in machine learning, or other "hard computer science" fields, and it feels like I will never be qualified without a graduate degree."
I have a masters. I feel this way too. I'm not qualified because I have no experience in these fields. If you're good and have side project experience in this, then you might get in.
The only thing degrees help with is not getting your resume trashed prior to an interview.
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#14I think if your problem is that you don't like your day-to-day but your pay is ok, the best way out isn't through university. I think its by dedicating yourself to passion projects through great effort in your free time.
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#15I'd really think carefully about why you want that degree.
> But then I look around and see the cool jobs in 3D graphics, in distributed systems, in machine learning, or other "hard computer science" fields, and it feels like I will never be qualified without a graduate degree.
Why do you feel that? What signals are you reading? Does this feeling apply across the board, or only to one or two of the fields you listed?
> What should I do?
Your title suggests that you may equate "credential" with education. I would take a serious look at that because it's far from a universal view. In fact, it may be the thing that's really holding you back.
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#16No need to feel like a screw-up. While most students may be in their early 20s, there are plenty of people in similar situations to yours, including those who went into the military to pay for college.
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#17Sure it would take twice the time, but unlike an undergrad you could study through the summer while working. Companies could even half fund this to upskill their workforce while retaining staff.
With so much education happening online, this should pre-eminently possible!
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#18I have an engineering degree and masters in CS. That stuff looks impossible to me as well. However, I know some people who work in similar fields with very little formal education.
I'm not saying it won't help, I'm just saying it is neither the only door to those "hard" fields, nor it is a guarantee that those subjects will suddenly start making more sense.
Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#19Re: Ask HN: Messed up my education, now 30 and regretting it. What to do?
#20> As a result I never even finished my bachelors degree, and I'm now in my early 30s and regretting it a lot. I'd really think carefully about why you want that degree. > But then I look around and see the cool jobs in 3D graphics, in distributed systems, in machine learning, or other "hard computer science" fields, and it feels like I will never be qualified without a graduate degree. Why do you feel that? What sign…
But more than a few commenters here are saying that demonstrating ability is more important than pedigree. Perhaps I just need to get over the mental hump of obsessing over credentials.