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Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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Post by thepasswordis »

I think at this point we can just expect this stuff.

The ridiculousness of it, though. The rekieta law stream (which is fantastic, btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7YXd2M5E-8) has anywhere from 4-12 active lawyers giving commentary and context to everything that is happening.

This is exactly the type of thing we dreamed about when we were first creating the internet.

However: often times these smaller independent journalists and commenters go against the reality that media companies want you to believe you live in. Thus: they get censored. Rekieta lost almost 40,000 people who were getting live commentary from a diverse (idealogically) set of lawyers, and now must to places where these companies can assert more narrative control.

It's sad.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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Post by fault1 »

BitwiseFool wrote: post #8

I really want to stress that while the internet has enabled just about everyone to act as a citizen journalist, it is not the ubiquity of information that matters, but rather, the access to information. YouTube and Google wield great power when it comes to gatekeeping information. The sinister part is that plenty of people, left and right, will defend Google's ability to do this merely because they are "a private com…

Isn't this just a market opportunity for other companies?

Google isn't the only company that owns the field of information retrieval. They just came the right place/right time after the .com crash.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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Post by martneumann »

blumomo wrote: post #9

YouTube also just deleted the accounts of the German independent investigatory committee www.corona-ausschuss.de who are an important information source for many German citizen.

You are being very generous by calling them an "investigatory committee". They routinely compare the anti Covid measures by the German government to the Holocaust [1]. On the same site, you can also see that they touted the weird conspiracy theory of becoming magnetic after being vaccinated.

They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems.

[1] https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Stiftung_Corona-Ausschus...

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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Post by fault1 »

oopsyDoodl wrote: post #10
_-david-_ wrote: post #3

Is it just me or does it seem like these "accidents" impact smaller and perhaps less politically authoritative channels than the big channels? I am not just talking about this incident but others as well.

They own all IP, why would they be subject to automated scans?

There is many good reasons to "scan" _all_ content. How about spam, illegal content, or anything that violates their TOU? These days if you do not have a litany of algorithms performing these tasks, the worst case is that you'll end up like Facebook where genocide occured (in Myanmar) because the content was not in unicode and the detection systems couldn't "read" it.

Like any other site, accounts with less "trust" are probably going to be flagged by automatic mechanisms. I've been on a few teams with various companies that have done things like fraud detection and it almost always works this way. sometimes there is of course, legitimate false positives.

Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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Post by eftychis »

fault1 wrote: post #12
BitwiseFool wrote: post #8

I really want to stress that while the internet has enabled just about everyone to act as a citizen journalist, it is not the ubiquity of information that matters, but rather, the access to information. YouTube and Google wield great power when it comes to gatekeeping information. The sinister part is that plenty of people, left and right, will defend Google's ability to do this merely because they are "a private com…

Isn't this just a market opportunity for other companies? Google isn't the only company that owns the field of information retrieval. They just came the right place/right time after the .com crash.

Are you going to vote with your money and pay for such a company to exist is the right question I would say.

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Post by trhway »

martneumann wrote: post #13
blumomo wrote: post #9

YouTube also just deleted the accounts of the German independent investigatory committee www.corona-ausschuss.de who are an important information source for many German citizen.

You are being very generous by calling them an "investigatory committee". They routinely compare the anti Covid measures by the German government to the Holocaust [1]. On the same site, you can also see that they touted the weird conspiracy theory of becoming magnetic after being vaccinated. They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems. [1] https://www.psiram.com/de/index.ph…

>They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems.

great sign of progress. Just mere 400 years ago they would have been tortured and burned at stake as heretics. Though who knows, the way things been moving lately ...

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Post by 1cvmask »

martneumann wrote: post #13
blumomo wrote: post #9

YouTube also just deleted the accounts of the German independent investigatory committee www.corona-ausschuss.de who are an important information source for many German citizen.

You are being very generous by calling them an "investigatory committee". They routinely compare the anti Covid measures by the German government to the Holocaust [1]. On the same site, you can also see that they touted the weird conspiracy theory of becoming magnetic after being vaccinated. They violated Youtube's ToS with their conspiracy theories and got kicked out, it seems. [1] https://www.psiram.com/de/index.ph…

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Re: YouTube takes down independent court livestreams

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Post by inChargeOfIT »

1cvmask wrote: post #14

YouTube is the great digital video censorship platform. My all time favorite was when they censored an academic conference on censorship. The HN discussion on it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26008217

How about censoring Dislikes? This is in progress now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxOuG8jMIgI&t=1s
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